Typical liberal comment. Remember everybody, the liberals are so much smarter than us conservatives, that they can demean us and call us names without reproach. The best lines are Deckard claiming how much we'll regret our decisions in 20 years. Classic...
but that's what Paul says...we were once servants of the law...but we are no longer. we've been freed from that. and all that jazz. how then do you square that??? what do you think Paul means??
except sexual preference hasn't typically been a protected classification...certainly not like race, gender or religion.
Hell if I know. I read where those 12 or 14 KKK protestors in Austin were for it. Those 12 people would not have been enough to change the election. The main point here is that you tried to insinuate that people who voted for the election were somehow similar to the KKK. That's a bunch of crap. Sorry, you lost the election - lose the sour grapes and take your loss like a man.
You're not wrong. ... (I'm trying to figure out how to explain this better). Yes, the new covenant is for us to have God's will written in our hearts. but for someone to say something like "I can do whatever I want because in my heart, God tells me it's okay".... I still don't know if that clarifies what I mean.
i agree with that. he actually made it "harder" in a sense. adultery isn't just sleeping with someone else..it's lust. murder isn't just killing someone...it's harboring hate in your heart for someone. but the more "outer" things were done away with. essentially, if it deals with something in your heart...that's new amplified. but if it's a ceremony...or a law about women marrying their deceased husband's brother...or a diet restriction...any of those "outer" things...well..it's pretty much history under the New Covenant.
Yup. That's what the new covenant is about. Frequently, when I get in a biblical dicussion/argument with people, they'll throw scripture at me. Well, when I throw scripture back at them, it kinda derails their argument. So their next step is to say that the new covenant gives them a get-out-of-jail free card. And I'll ask them, "then why did you throw scripture at me in the first place, if you don't have to believe in it? One minute you're saying 'the Bible says to do this and not to do that' and the next minute you're saying that 'the new covenant lets not have to follow that.'" that's bogus when people to that. And note: I'm not accusing you of saying this. In fact nobody here has said this. But this is why I don't recommend using (and don't like to see) scripture used as arguments in political discussions.
It was unfair of me to single you out. I apologize. But I won't take back anything I said. Congratulations to the right-wing "christian" zealots. Spreading the message of "god's love for all sinners" by singling out sinners we especially don't like. ****ing hypocrites. Ever ask yourself why that is?
wow, thank you. i've taught high school kids for quite some time. don't know what opportunities for that will exist at whatever new church i end up at.
And replaced with other dogma and laws similar in cultural antiquity. I don't understand how Paul "frees" one from anything - he levies an incredible amount of behavioral restrictions on christianity.
i won't argue with you that the church has piled on unnecessary dogma over the last 2000 or so years. well..all i can say is...read the OT...read Leviticus, for example. and then read any of Paul's letters to any of the churches. there is a HUGE difference. and technically, Paul isn't freeing anyone. it's someone else!
As Max hinted at, simply because someone is a Christian doesn't meant they agree with the things that churches tend to do. I am a Baptist yet I loathe organized religion because they are too caught up in the "other stuff" and forget to focus on the important things. I recently just left the church I went to for 13 years because of the bureaucracy of it all. No one says churches are perfect and Christians are always right, we have our share of bad apples just like anyone else in the world and we know that... so why people continually lump all Christians together is beyond me. Sorry if I went off on a tangent a bit, just wanted to say it.
