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Will Bush Be Made the Scape Goat for the Wide Spread Failure of Conservative Policies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. glynch

    glynch Member

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    As we see actual conservatism in power has multiple screw ups: unnecessary, costly wars, increased povery rates, bigger deficits, tax cuts for the well off, costly infrastructure catstrophes like the New Orleans levees, rising numbers of uninsured, losing international respect as we withdraw from nuclear treaties and environmental treaties etc.

    We are starting to see I believe the scapegoating of Bush. As an example Thomas Friedman a conservative on Iraq constantly proclaims it would have been a splendid little war if Bush and gang did not run it so dumbly. Conservatives blast him for trying to appoint another crony to the S. Ct as was done in FEMA and other agencies.

    With a conservative S. Ct., President and both houses of Congress, we have had a virtual conservative wish list of programs and laws , yet a growing majority sees the country going in a wrong direction. It is the conservative policies, stupid, not just Bush responsible for the failure in practice of their agenda.
     
  2. No Worries

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    W will not accept responsiblity for anything bad. This is The Way of the W.
     
  3. hotballa

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    Glynch has got a point. People need to open their eyes and see that the conservatives and liberals are all one and the same, both will spend their little hearts out if there is noone to put a check on them. I want people to recognize the failure of the entire party, not just one person. Hopefully the GOP loses its grip on the Senate. The House of Rep will always be Republican controlled due to their little district altering shenannigans.
     
  4. No Worries

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    Hopefully the GOP loses its grip on the Senate.

    I know it is a pipe dream, but if the Dems win back control of the Senate in 2006, W will be one very happy camper when they actually start to investigate his f*ckups.
     
  5. AggieRocket

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    Simply put, the Democrats will not win back the House or the Senate in 2006.
     
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    Not to derail the thread but you seem mighty sure of yourself. Care to elaborate?
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Oh, derail away. :)



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  8. hotballa

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    I don't think the Democrats have any shot at the House until at least 2010 because of all the realignments the Republicans did, but I think theres enough GOP Senate seats in play that the Democrats can have a decent shot at it in 2006 provided they are able to capitalize on the just horrendous job that some of these GOP fatcats have done
     
  9. glynch

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    Of course W won't, but conservatives will try to blame W and gang for the failure of the conservative policies Bush and gang have put into effect.
     
  10. Svpernaut

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    Regardless of what you guys say, there has been no "outcry" that conservatives have failed... the conservative base is as strong as ever, so until democrats win back any part of Washington keep your "game over we win" speeches for discussions about 2004 exit polls. I'm sorry but what you hear on the news is not the heartbeat of the people... if it was Kerry would be in office.
     
  11. hotballa

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173643,00.html

    COLMES: On my radio show at night, people will sometimes -- conservatives will call and say, "You know what, I'm really sorry I cast my vote for President Bush. And we play Brenda Lee and "I'm Sorry" and ask them to sing along.
     
  12. Svpernaut

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    Wow, someone call into a liberal radio show and conform with what the host is saying? NO WAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT!?!? Honestly, you think that makes a point? All that matters are election returns, everything until then is simply news stations seeking advertisement revenue.
     
  13. No Worries

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    38% of the voters agree with you.
     
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    It seems to me that the real problem is that W isn't a real Republican. Compare the traditional Republican platform to the actions of this President and it is easy to see many of the difference between the two. From the whole Terry Schiavo thing (Republican's are traditionally big state's rights supporters) to the increases in the size/scope of the federal government to nation building, W is anything but the average Republican. My theory is that the Republicans support the man so fervently because of his ability to get the evangelical vote out. It seems to me that the Republicans ride with W because he can help them more than they agree with him. I am pretty much a hardcore liberal democrat, but when you get to see someone like Arnold Vinick talk about traditional conservatism it makes some sense and I can agree with aspects of it. But when it is W on the pulpit preaching things that are obviously pandering to his base it repulses me.
     
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    Assume his successor can clean up the deficit and stabilize international relations, they'll just blame the next lib/mod president for being to lax on morals and hearken back to the old days of the Greenspan era of instant greed in stocks and real estate.

    After a new generation voters arise, they'll paint a pretty picture of Bush's strong 8 years of leadership, and pose the question of what is happening now?

    It worked for Reagan.
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    George W is a new school big government iso repub ~ this is naturally causing some serious clashing and splits in the party.

    *Big Gov iso Repubs<-------Moderate Repubs----->Radical Religious Right*

    What a mess ~ they're starting to look like the Dems...
     
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    It pains me to say it, but Reagan looks more "moderate" by the day, compared to George W. Bush. Bush is not a conservative Republican. He is an ungodly creation of Karl Rove and whatever bizarre mental processes run through his formally drug and alcohol assaulted mind. He is a caricature of a President, who must be having fits right about now, beset with deep dispair that his closest advisor, and part of the rest of his small cabal of people who feed him his lines for the day, just might be indicted. If they are not, his sigh of relief may rattle windows far beyond the West Wing. In my opinion.



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  18. AggieRocket

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    There's no in-depth analysis behind my statement. It's my firm belief; no more and no less. You might know, I am a Republican that is extremely disappointed with my party. I want the Democrats to recapture the House and Senate to knock some sense into the GOP and to stop the current trend. However, I do not see it happening.
     
  19. AggieRocket

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    You are comparing Reagan to Bush?? Reagan was one of our greatest presidents while Bush isn't fit to be the President of Del Boca Vista, let alone the USA. People didn't need to "paint a pretty picture of Reagan's leadership"; his leadership was pretty.
     
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    Reagan was a piece of ****. So was Clinton. And now Dubya is.
     

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