1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Meirs Is Out: CNN Breaking News

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rhadamanthus, Oct 27, 2005.

Tags:
  1. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    596
    President Bush "reluctantly" accepts Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers's request to withdraw her nomination.
     
  2. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    472
    uh huh...
     
  3. serious black

    serious black Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    564
    Likes Received:
    8
    I predict Alberto before the weekend.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    596
    Oh please god no.
     
  5. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,138
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    Why not ? Just because he wrote the torture documents?
     
  6. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    596
    That would be a big reason.

    Wait a minute, whaddya mean "just because he wrote the torture documents?"

    Are you honestly trying to make that sound trivial?
     
  7. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,310
    Likes Received:
    4,659
    What an absolutely humiliating defeat for Bush. This must be a sad, sad day for lil t and tj.
     
  8. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,138
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    First, I feel there are many things to look at when nominating a Supreme court justice. You will not agree with everything a nominee stands for, especially one picked by Bush, so you have to decide which things are more important. Thus he is not automatically disqualified by writing those documents, which might not even be all of his ideas.
     
  9. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    LOL - I'd rather have Alberto anyway.

    Rice Owls represent!
     
  10. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    472
    This really is stunning and probably a really big pain in the booty for jr.

    Contrary to what he says, IMHO the last thing he really wanted to do is nominate someone who will placate the Bushbots and overturn R v. W. The cabal knows that if the SC overturns R v. W that there would be a major backlash against the republican party.

    Now he almost has to nominate a wingnut.

    Bring on the Filibuster!!!!!

    [edit] "The radical right wing of the Republican Party killed the Harriet Miers nomination," said Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada
     
    #10 mc mark, Oct 27, 2005
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2005
  11. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,423
    Likes Received:
    33,132
    Meirs was a Heat check
    Bush was riding a wave of wins . . .and just wanted to
    see how far he could go

    Rocket River
     
  12. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    596
    I don't have to agree with everything a justice "stands for". I think that's pretty impossible.

    IMO, yes he is disqualified for writing those documents, his ideas or otherwise. Heck, if they truly were not his ideas, I'd argue that makes him even less qualified - if you can't draw a moral line at not endorsing torture, you do NOT belong on the supreme court of the United States.
     
  13. Mulder

    Mulder Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 1999
    Messages:
    7,118
    Likes Received:
    81
    I didn't support her because she was WHOLLY unqualified.
     
  14. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    472
    Well we know Samfisher will be disappointed because she was soooo HAWT!!!

    sorry sam
     
  15. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,103
    Likes Received:
    3,610
    Bush will appoint someone who is even less qualified. BTW I don' think just because you are smart, look good and know constutuional law that makes you qualified.

    Good pr move by Dubya, it will give the press something to talk about besides the indictments of his top aids and what he and Cheney knew about the Plame affair.
     
  16. Mulder

    Mulder Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 1999
    Messages:
    7,118
    Likes Received:
    81
    My biggest fear is not another Scalia, I don't agree with him as a Fundamentalist, but he is brilliant. My biggest fear is another Clarence "No questions" Thomas who basically phones most of it in and votes the way Scalia does.
     
  17. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,469
    Likes Received:
    9,346
    good news.
     
  18. underoverup

    underoverup Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    75
    I guess that $1000 campaign controbution to Al Gore really sealed her fate.
     
  19. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,103
    Likes Received:
    3,610
    Sadly those are the two types Bush wants. Miers was probably in the Clarence Thomas type.

    I still predict a guy or gal who is" 1) a big biz fan, 2) hates the little guy or worker, 3) not too stupid to overturn Roe as the GOP is in trouble if the abortion concerned only Christians don't remain worked up 4) pro-secretive and torturing government.

    The bad news for Bush is that the nominee might not be a complete hack and Bush only conservative (like Meir)who thus might rule, like the Nixon Court did, that Bush must turn over documents leading to his own impeachment and or unmasking.as a liar.
     
  20. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,976
    Likes Received:
    20,792
    Miers Withdraws Under Mounting Criticism
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: October 27, 2005

    Filed at 10:05 a.m. ET

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Under withering attack from conservatives, President Bush ended his push to put loyalist Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court Thursday and promised a quick replacement. Democrats accused him of bowing to the ''radical right wing of the Republican Party.''

    The White House said Miers had withdrawn her name because of a bipartisan effort in Congress to gain access to internal documents related to her role as counsel to the president. But politics played a larger role: Bush's conservative backers had doubts about her ideological purity, and Democrats had little incentive to help the nominee or the embattled GOP president.

    The withdrawal stunned Washington on a day when the capital was awaiting potential bad news for the administration on another front -- the possible indictments of senior White House aides in the CIA leak case. Earlier in the week, the U.S. military death toll in Iraq hit 2,000

    President Bush said he reluctantly accepted Miers' decision to withdraw, after weeks of insisting that he did not want her to step down.

    ''It is clear that senators would not be satisfied until they gained access to internal documents concerning advice provided during her tenure at the White House -- disclosures that would undermine a president's ability to receive candid counsel,'' Bush said. ''Harriet Miers' decision demonstrates her deep respect for this essential aspect of the constitutional separation of powers -- and confirms my deep respect and admiration for her.''

    There were few regrets on Capitol Hill, from either party.

    Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., told Fox News that the nomination had been a bad idea. ''Let's move on,'' he said. ''In a month, who will remember the name Harriet Miers.''

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called Miers capable but added, ''This clearly was the wrong position for her.''

    ''The radical right wing of the Republican Party killed the Harriet Miers nomination,'' said Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who had recommended Miers to the president.

    Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist spoke with White House chief of staff Andy Card Wednesday night and offered a ''frank assessment of the situation in the committee and in the full Senate,'' Frist spokesman Bob Stevenson said.

    Miers' withdrawal means the justice she was chosen to replace, Sandra Day O'Connor, will be delay her retirement further. O'Connor has been a swing voter on numerous emotional social issues, and more are set to come before the Supreme Court.

    On Nov. 30, the court will hear arguments on New Hampshire's parental notification law for abortion, which a lower court said is unconstitutional because it lacks an exception allowing a minor to have an abortion to protect her health. O'Connor has been expected to vote to strike down the law. That case also could determine the legal standard for challenges to other states' abortion laws.

    Also in late November the court may decide whether it will hear the Bush administration's appeal of a 2003 federal law that bans the type of late-term operation known as partial-birth abortion. Lower courts have said the law is unconstitutional, because it lacks a health exception.

    Before Bush chose Miers on Oct. 3, speculation focused on her and two other Bush loyalists: Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Bush's longtime friend who would be the first Hispanic on the court, and corporate lawyer Larry Thompson, who was the government's highest ranking black law enforcement official as deputy attorney general during Bush's first term.

    Other candidates mentioned frequently included conservative federal appeals court judges J. Michael Luttig, Priscilla Owen, Karen Williams, Alice Batchelder and Samuel Alito; Michigan Supreme Court justice Maura Corrigan and Maureen Mahoney, a frequent litigator before the high court.

    Miers and her supporters knew she faced growing odds against her confirmation.

    A senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity because Bush had not authorized him to talk for the record, said it had become increasingly clear that her nomination was facing a collision on Capitol Hill that needed to be prevented.

    Polls show Bush is at the weakest point of his presidency with growing numbers of voters disapproving of his job performance and his policies on Iraq.

    In her letter dated Thursday, Miers said she was concerned that the confirmation process ''would create a burden for the White House and our staff that is not in the best interest of the country.''

    She noted that members of the Senate had indicated their intention to seek documents about her service in the White House in order to judge whether to support her confirmation.

    ''While I believe that my lengthy career provides sufficient evidence for consideration of my nomination, I am convinced the efforts to obtain executive branch materials and information will continue,'' she wrote.

    Since her nomination, there have been widespread complaints about Miers' lack of legal credentials, doubts about her ability and assertions of cronyism because of her longtime association with Bush.

    In a letter on Wednesday, Sen. Arlen Specter, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sought assurances that Miers would show no favoritism toward Bush if confirmed as a justice.

    Bush said she would remain as White House counsel.

    ''My responsibility to fill this vacancy remains,'' Bush said in a statement. ''I will do so in a timely manner.''
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now