This team is has Van Gundy's Imprint all over IT!!!

Wow, you know how to google!!!

JVG, in his first 10 years of coaching, already has a higher winning percentage than Larry Brown. He never missed a playoff season, never had a losing season, made an extensive run at the NBA title as the head coach of the eighth seeded NYKnicks.

No one is saying he's as highly regarded as Brown right now, but he has the potential to get there.

edc, arguing with you is like to wrestle with pigs in the mud. I know the dirtier it gets, the better you like it. So, you stay in the mud and enjoy yourself. I've got better things to do.

 

...and I would disagree. Mr. Van Gundy has nowhere near the track record Larry Brown had in his tenth year as a head coach. The "getting there" is about like saying, had he managed to keep his weight down, and worked on his game 24 hours a day, Thomas Hamilton had the "potential" to be Shaq.

 

So, i take it you're hoping for the rockets to fail this season to prove yourself correct? Did it make you unhappy to see Van Gundy's team do so well in the second half of last season? Does Van Gundy get ANY credit for success the rockets might have, or do they succeed despite him? If the Lakers or knicks miss the playoffs this year will it be because phil jackson or larry brown did a poor coaching job or because their teams stink?

My point is: Comparing Van Gundy, a coach you think WILL fail, to Hamilton, a player who DID fail, is premature. The Rockets have been successful so far with Van Gundy, so why predict failure for them in the future because of your preconceptions about a certain coach?

 

Comparing Mr. Van Gundy to Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, or Rudy T, coaches who DID succeed in much less time than ten seasons as a professional head coach is premature.

Further, "success" is not failing in the first round, particularly when the above coaches were winning championships in their first few seasons leading new ballclubs.

 

Theres no use in arguing with edc...he thinks JVG is a poor coach..fine, whatever, thats his opinion, no matter how wrong we may believe he is (and I do believe he's been puffin that la-la lately)...

JVG is not on Larry Brown's calibre as a head coach but he's not far behind either...Larry Brown is a great teacher who understands the principles behind basketball...as far as person, he is unloyal and contradicts his word at times...JVG is also a great teacher who understands principles, yet he is loyal (too loyal at times) and always is blunt and honest with his thoughts...

I think JVG will one day end up in the Hall of Fame because I do believe he'll win a couple of championships here in Houston...he's been to the playoffs man times, has been to a Finals, and has changed stagnant, content teams (Houston and NY) into disciplined winners within his first season as a coach...

This is a Rockets team that demands hard work, commitment and dedication towards their craft...they play hard and play defensively before all else...I will go on record as saying that JVG is a better coach than Rudy T...Not saying that Rudy wasnt a great coach, he obviously was...but I do believe that JVG is a better X's and O's coach and better at getting the most out of his players...he wants nothing than perfection from his players and the team, and that goes along way towards identity and wins...

 

"A couple of championships" is hardly enough to get one into the basketball hall of fame.

 

Somebody know how to reprogram this guy? Any computer engineers on this board?

 

edc,

Name one time where JVG was outcoached....

Comparing Rudy T to JVG is like apples and oranges. But for the sake of argument, I can remember Rudy T making boneheaded play calls and lacking imagination during the day of ISO ball. JVG is a workhorse.. nobody ever said that about Rudy. Players liked playing under Rudy because he was a "player's coach." They like playing under JVG because how much knowledge he has and how he expects the bests from them and guarantees that he will give it his all as well.

 

Really? Is that a fact or are you just guessing? (my bet is the second)

I mean how many championships do the following hall of fame coaches have?

Alex Hannum
Lenny Wilkins
Chuck Daly
Hubie Brown

 

May 7, 2005.

As to Tomjanovich, he outcoached the combined brain trust of Mr. Van Gundy and his mentor, Mr. Riley. I would also question how far your memory goes back, as consistently, players, opponents, and broadcasters (national and local) consistently called the Rockets under the previous administration "one of the most prepared teams" they had ever seen.

Please note, I did not bring up Tomjanovich, except in the context of comparing his first half-dozen seasons with those of Brown, Jackson, and Mr. Van Gundy.

There is no question Mr. Van Gundy lives in the film room. Good for him. Perhaps better coaches do not need to spend 25 hours a day preparing a game plan. Case in point, Larry Brown.

 

classic!!!!!

i sense a clutchfans cllllllllllaasic moment in the process!!

 

It's ok, macfan, just ignore him. Again, the dirtier the arguments get, the more he likes it.

I graduated with a computer science degree, and I don't want to waste time reprogram him. There are more important thing to do, such as vacuuming my floor, and feeding the dogs...

 

It is the BASKETBALL HOF, not the NBA HOF.

Add a decade or so of NCAA experience, with considerable success to 713 career NBA victories, we can cross Chuck Daly off that list.

Lenny Wilkens: 1372 career victories.

Alex Hannum won three professional championships.

Hubie Brown was not inducted as a coach, but as a "contributor."

Best case scenario, two titles, and a decade of sixty-win seasons would be necessary to even put Mr. Van Gundy in the picture.

 

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*sigh* Don't make me change my signature again, edc.

 

I have zero interest in your signature.

 

Heh, Vescey, I have Dierking as a professor myself...

 

Nike, didn't you mention before that you work in the business school?

I forgot how much midterms suck.

 

Give JVG The Dream, Clyde and barkely and see how he goes. the comparisond to Rudy T, are so unfair it's not funny. JVG would have made Olajuwon into a freaking beast. its not like Dream was'nt a beast, but under JVG, he would have putup monster numbers. Rudy is renouned for coaching big man, but JVG is just as good. under JVG, Ewing had his best years.

 

You are correct. There is no comparison between Mr. Van Gundy and Rudy T. The only "funny" thing is you trying to make one.

 

I thought somebody was going to offer to reprogram this guy. I guess we're going to have to hire somebody to do it.

He seems to only recognize the letters J, V and G. He's a cheap robot