Bela: You're a troll in the main forum, too... ------------------ A few years back on the Senate floor... Phil Gramm: "If Democrats could, they'd tax the air we breathe." Ted Kennedy (jumping up): "By God, why didn't I think of that sooner!" Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001
My name is Beto, which is a nickname for Roberto. I see that you would rather call me names than defend your ideas, but why would I expect a socialist to compete? ------------------ I hate rice and beans!
Bela: Notice the "competition" of ideas between others and myself? I responded to your initial arguments with an argumentative, considered post. You responded with insults, panegyrics, and venom. I noticed that in the main forum, you flamed heypartner for no reason. That's proof of your trolhood enough for me. You've forfeited the rights for considered responses. Gollum, gollum. ------------------ A few years back on the Senate floor... Phil Gramm: "If Democrats could, they'd tax the air we breathe." Ted Kennedy (jumping up): "By God, why didn't I think of that sooner!" Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001 [This message has been edited by haven (edited June 06, 2001).]
Haven, Don't respond to bela, hey, jim, bob, or whatever else he comes up with. Just keep him on ignore mode. ------------------ "You sanctimonious philistines, who scoff at me!"
Hmmmm.... Well I'm definitely conservative, which means I usually vote Republican, but not necessarily... I don't really look at it as a question of political party as much as I do a question of core beliefs... My biggest beef is people who don't really understand what the party they claim to represent, or what candidate they like or dislike. So many people, liberal and conservative, just blindly vote whatever, or buy into most ridiculous blanket statements that are just stupid and don't reflect anything significant... i.e.: "Bob Dole is old" "Bill Clinton is a womanizer" "Nixon was a crook" I really, really like and respect people like Jeff Balke, whom I absolutely and totally disagree with on nearly every political issue, but who really know and practice what they believe... That's what freedom is all about isn't it? ------------------ "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..." - Mark Twain - [This message has been edited by DarkHorse (edited June 06, 2001).]
RichRocket: Dear God, categorize me as a student before a library employee! To think I might be here in 5 years *shudder*. Rimbaud: Why don't you add Arthur Miller to your list of elderly liberal thinkers... he seems to be the best one left . His op-ed piece about the Clinton impeachment was brilliant... wish he still wrote plays, though. I think people generally become more conservative as they grow older because they become "stakeholders" in the status quo. That doesn't exactly endorse the validity of their change of opinion; rather, they lose the ideological clarity that they possessed in their youth. One is more objective in yourth, and hence probably more fair. You mentioned that it's easy to spend other people's money; well, it is... but isn't it also more likely that disinterested people will make more rational decisions? But I don't believe it's true that liberals just like to spend "other people's money." I know plenty of wealthy liberals. And I know plenty of poor, Republicans. Stereotypes seldom hold up. ------------------ A few years back on the Senate floor... Phil Gramm: "If Democrats could, they'd tax the air we breathe." Ted Kennedy (jumping up): "By God, why didn't I think of that sooner!" Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001
Thus, it is a little inappropriate to transplant Churchill's words to represent our Bush/Gore options. I was only trying to paraphrase a remark that I view as a truism-- no transplantation meant or intended. I think I know what the man was getting at. The specifics about shanna and haven were only cited because, whether accurate or not, they were my impression of who they were to be saying what they were saying. That's why I tossed in the little bio about myself. We are all more complex than we can deduct from these brief expressions here. That's why the stuff expressed here shouldn't be taken so literally. This is no more than an electronic bull session. WHATEVER your views, I find your "style" a little too harsh and in-your-face although very subtle. Aren't we supposed to be talking about the ideas, not going after the author of any particular idea? This is supposed to be fun and enlightening. Slighting me is no way to persuade me to your argument, I can guarantee. And vice-versa. ------------------ Time is a great teacher-- only problem is it kills all its pupils.
He still does, his Play "Ride Down Mt. Morgan" was nominated for Best Play and Best Actor (Patric Stewart) of the 2000 Tony's. Carry on, this has been fun reading... ------------------ Everything you do, effects everything that is.
