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[ESPN] Interesting Rockets Prediction

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by szman86, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. szman86

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&id=2190165&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dhollinger_john%26id%3d2190165

    Add it all up and what do you get? KG
    Insider
    Hollinger
    By John Hollinger
    ESPN Insider
    Archive

    Productivity -- that's the name of the game in the NBA. Make more positive plays and fewer negative ones than your opponent, and there's a good chance your team will win the game.

    Thus, a good way to measure players against each other is to compare how many positive and negative plays they make. To do so, I developed a system called the Player Efficiency Rating, or PER.

    PER takes into account all of a player's statistical contributions -- points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, missed shots, turnovers and fouls -- and rolls them up into a score for every player in the league.

    PER relies on a complex formula to rate a player's contribution in each of these categories, awarding or subtracting points depending on how much the player added or subtracted to his team. But it doesn't stop there. It adjusts every player's rating for the team's pace, an important consideration when comparing players from, say, Indiana and Phoenix.

    Perhaps more important, it is a per-minute rating, not the per-game averages we're used to seeing. This distinction is important because we can then compare players whose playing times may be very different and answer questions such as "Should Player X play more than Player Y?" or "Could Player B be helpful to Team A?"

    To simplify things, I set the league average in PER to 15.00 for each season. This makes comparisons between seasons very easy, which affords other opportunities. For instance, we can evaluate a player against his previous seasons, compare players from different eras, or produce objective answers to questions such as "Are there more great power forwards now than at any time in history?"

    Furthermore, using 15.00 is a helpful benchmark because that's about what we expect a run-of-the-mill starter to score in an NBA game. Thus, we can use barometers already hard-wired into our heads -- above 20 is excellent, above 25 is superstardom, and below 10 is brutal.

    Finally, there is one partial blind spot: defense. PER analyzes players based on blocks, steals and fouls, but that's a small part of overall defense. As a result, defensive specialists who get few blocks or steals, such as Bruce Bowen, end up with a lower rating than we might expect. Similarly, bad defensive players who nonetheless pile up steals or blocks, such as Jason Williams or Raef LaFrentz, rate higher than they ought to.

    So, let's get to the fun part. Just who were the most productive players last season? The chart below shows the NBA's top 10 in PER last season. I also inserted each player's per-40-minute stats to show how each ended up on the list:

    Garnett's team didn't make the playoffs, but he was the highest-rated player for a second straight season. Garnett ranked ahead of players like Duncan, Shaq and Stoudemire primarily because he stuffed the stat sheet in so many ways. While he averaged fewer points per minute than the next six players, Garnett was better at nearly everything else. He had one of the highest rebound rates in basketball, with only Duncan coming close among the top five in PER. Garnett had nearly twice as many assists per minute as the others and was well ahead in steals too. And compared to Duncan, his only rival in rebounding, Garnett shot better both from the floor and the free throw line.

    Sum it all up and it's no surprise that Garnett rated No. 1; it's just unfortunate that the team around him fell apart, denying him a second straight MVP award. Speaking of MVPs, you might notice somebody isn't on the list. Phoenix's Steve Nash won the award but ranked only 18th in PER. While his assist rate and shooting percentages were phenomenal, only two players in the top 40 (Jason Kidd and Brad Miller) scored less frequently, and Nash didn't help his cause in the rebounding and defensive categories.

    OK, we've looked at the best ... now how about the worst?

    Catch them while you can, folks, because you won't be seeing most of these guys in the NBA for much longer. One glaring exception is Madsen, the league's second-least productive player a year ago, who inexplicably received a five-year deal from the Wolves in the offseason.

    Looking at last year's best and worst is informative, but we can also take things a step further. By comparing a given player to the most similar performers from recent NBA history, and then seeing how those similar players fared in subsequent years, we can project how a player's performance is likely to change in future seasons. Using just such a method, I have projected stats for every regular player, which you can find in the Insider section of the player stats. Based on those projections, we can determine the league leaders in PER for 2005-06.

    Looking into the crystal ball, we shouldn't expect the top 10 to change much. Again, KG is on top:

    Projections have their weaknesses -- for example, they don't know that Stoudemire just had microfracture surgery. But as a forecasting tool, projections can point us in unexpected directions. For instance, the two Rockets, McGrady and Yao, both project to be more productive than they were a year ago. If true, that would make Houston a much more serious threat in the West than many have anticipated.

    But in the big picture, the triumvirate that has been ruling the league for nearly the entire post-Jordan era -- Garnett, Duncan and O'Neal -- again figures to lead the pack. That's hardly surprising -- they've accounted for four of the past six MVP awards and six of the past seven championships. Unless 2005-06 becomes Year 1 of the LeBron Era, look for the trio to make it five of seven on the MVPs and seven of eight on the championships.
     
  2. yoyoma

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    where's the complete list? :confused:
     
  3. MrButtocks

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    Damn. It came from ESPN. They're going to jinx us. Why not just have Charles Barkley declare us the best team in the west? That should take some wind out of our sails.
     
  4. szman86

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    I posted the original post before they finished posting the article on espn. Here's what they added for the top 10 and bottom 10. They also have individual team profiles up now as well.

    PER: Top 10 (min. 500 minutes) (Last Season)
    Player Pts/40 Reb/40 Ast/40 PER
    1 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota 23.3 14.2 6.0 28.35
    2 Tim Duncan, San Antonio 24.4 13.3 3.3 27.13
    3 Shaquille O'Neal, Miami 26.8 12.2 3.2 26.95
    4 Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix 28.8 9.9 1.8 26.69
    5 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 26.9 10.0 3.2 26.18
    6 LeBron James, Cleveland 25.7 6.9 6.8 25.75
    7 Andrei Kirilenko, Utah 19.0 7.6 3.9 24.45
    8 Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 27.1 5.8 5.9 23.28
    9 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 29.0 3.8 7.5 23.23
    10 Yao Ming, Houston 23.9 10.9 1.0 23.22

    PER: Projected 2005-06 Top 10
    Player Pts/40 Reb/40 Ast/40 PER
    1 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota 22.7 14.0 5.1 26.39
    2 Tim Duncan, San Antonio 23.4 13.2 3.3 25.12
    3 Shaquille O'Neal, Miami 22.1 11.9 2.7 24.24
    4 LeBron James, Cleveland 26.7 6.2 7.1 24.09
    5 Yao Ming, Houston 23.6 12.2 1.7 24.05
    6 Tracy McGrady, Houston 27.3 6.1 5.7 24.03
    7 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 23.9 9.6 2.9 23.52
    8 Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix 25.9 10.2 1.9 23.51
    9 Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 25.7 5.7 5.7 22.46
    10 Dwyane Wade, Miami 23.9 5.2 6.2 22.39

    PER: Bottom 10 (min. 500 minutes)
    Player Pts/40 Reb/40 Ast/40 PER
    1 Theron Smith, Charlotte 8.2 9.1 2.2 5.10
    2 Mark Madsen, Minnesota 5.8 8.5 1.2 6.76
    3 Rafael Araujo, Toronto 10.6 10.0 0.9 6.87
    4 Junior Harrington, Indiana 11.9 4.6 4.5 7.63
    5 Ryan Bowen, Houston 7.4 5.0 1.2 7.65
    6 Calbert Cheaney, Golden State 10.5 5.2 2.7 7.76
    7 George Lynch, New Orleans 7.0 7.5 3.8 7.83
    8 Jarron Collins, Utah 8.9 6.8 2.5 7.92
    9 Erick Strickland, Milwaukee 11.9 4.1 4.5 8.01
    10 Walter McCarty, Boston-Phoenix 11.5 6.1 1.6 8.08

    Of the top 10 for the projection only Dwayne Wade, T-mac and Yao increased their PER (bit strange) everyone else dropped, and also something else that's interesting is that Yao's Pts/40 is projected to decrease. So there is some proof that you can't judge everything off numbers.

    Here is the rockets team profile with an individual profile for each player:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/hollinger?team=hou
    You have to have insider to read the whole article.

    I don't know how accurate his formula is but its still interesting. Maybe someone with insider can post the complete individual profiles.
     
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  5. kaleidosky

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    I like how the player listed as "Most similar at same age" based on the stats for Rafer is none other than..... Mike James
     
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    Makes sense, good read. There is doubt that T-Mac and Yao are two very productive players, we're lucky to have both, and any team would kill for the upside of this duo.
     
  7. DeAleck

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    AK47 ahead of Kobe and AI!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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    And T-Mac.

    In the chat, someone asked him why he put AK over Tracy. His response was because AK can block shots and Tracy took November off last year "as usual".
     
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    He didn't put Kirilenko over Tracy, his dumbasz formula did. This is not baseball. You don't judge players on some formula. There are so many intangibles and other factors that don't reflect themselves in the numbers. How do you account for a player's ballhandling ability, how do you account for their size, what their role is on the team, how they help the team win, their one on one capability, how they facilitate the offense, their on the ball defense etc etc etc

    How many times has Kirilenko been doubleteamed in his life? How many times does he create his own shot for that matter? He's a garbage man, just like Marion
     
  10. micah1j

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    If they are garbage men then I'll trade some of our non-garbage men for them. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Easy

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    Better understand his method before you diss him. This guy is one of the most knowledgeable basketball statistician. And he knows the game too, not just numbers.
     

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