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[How To] Writing Song Lyrics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Stone Cold Hakeem, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    I know there are a couple of professional musicians and a lot closet ones hanging out on here...anyone have advice or best practices on writing songs? I am sitting on a ton of songs I just can't seem to get started writing lyrics for. Its not even the melodies that are evading, its like when I get paper in front of me, I just have nothing to say.

    My life can't be that boring. Help!
     
  2. plcmts17

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    Don't worry so much about rhyming and meaning. Stick to painting pictures with the words or conveying some type of feeling. And if that doesn't help, then just write about the tried and true themes of sex,frustration and loss.
    Don't worry about being original either,those days are long gone.
     
  3. BobFinn*

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    The only advice I can give you is,

    just start writing

    Anything that comes to mind, write it down. Always have a piece of paper and pen close by. There is no wrong way to write a song. Don't get caught up in trying to make every line rhyme. Just get your thoughts on paper and go from there.

    Sometimes words come to you when strumming the guitar. Other times you may be watcing tv or reading something and you get a phrase in your head.

    Don't worry about sitting down and trying to write an entire song. Somedays you will get several lines, and then a month later a few more. Then there are times when playing guitar you get an entire song in one sitting.

    Everyone has different methods, I find reading poetry or listening to songs to be very helpful.

    Be different, try things that have never been done. Keep an open mind, let inspiration flow through you.
     
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  4. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    What kind of music, Stone Cold Hakeem? That would be a good thing to know. ;)
     
  5. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    Hahah, depends on the mood. Mostly rock, usually really mellow stuff, sans distortion.
     
  6. A-Train

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    It's not like you need to have thought provoking lyrics in order to have a hit song...
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    Drink a few beers and just sing what comes to mind as you play, and record it. You will probably get a basic structure later to refine.
     
  8. thadeus

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    Never ever use the phrase "set me free."
     
  9. bigben69

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    Keep your own style. I just wrote down everything i thought of. It looked like a mess but once you have instruments the words just kinda fit. There is no real good advice anyone can give you on this one because everyone has thier own way of writing songs. I for some reason seem to be able to write lyrics in class like it is nothing but at home I am useless. It is easy sometimes if you keep a basic setup of what you want in the song before you write the lyrics. I would plan ahead like this:
    1st verse
    2nd verse
    chorus
    3rd
    4th
    chorus
    5th
    6th
    chorus

    That is the one I used at first. I know it seems like common sense but it helps tons when you have a set up of what you want ahead of time so you can just fill in the blanks. For inspiration, just look at everything in your life and if that doesnt work you can always look at life from someone elses point of view. A BIG part is keeping with what you write. Some lyrics you write may sound corny but just stick with it and dont throw them out. Wait till the song is done to decide if you want to change words. It is a lot easier to go back and change things rather than get stuck on a verse and not be able to move on. Hope this helps!
     
  10. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Just contact Leonard Cohen or Bob Dylan about this.
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    Or David Alan Coe (spelling?)
     
  12. KellyDwyer

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    First you have to see fire.

    And then you have to see rain.
     
  13. Win

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    Some good suggestions here. Like BobFinn said, write down everything. Better yet, keep a notebook of everything; especially bit's and pices of say napkins from the bar when something strikes you as good, and anything from where-ever you hear or think of something.

    Do not be worried about telling a great story (at least at first) or having the most unique idea. Afterall, there is little to nothing left that is truly original and some of the biggest hits were utter nonscence - like Louie Louie, et al.

    I would also suggest picking a few favorite songwriters and follow their structure. I used to write alot (still do sometimes) and liked Jagger for the way he strung the words together to form a rapid fire melody and Richard Butler of the Psychedelic Furs for the imagery of what was mostly just cool lines strung together with not much total meaning that I could discern - just sounded cool; and that's good enough for Rock n Roll. Lou Reed was also a goldmine - don't be afraid to write something (like whiteLight/White Heat, Heroin, Sweet Jane) that might be controversial. And then there is the Robert Polard (Guided by Voices) aproach....

    Anything goes, bro... Once you get comfortable you can then start to develop your own voice and move onto writing in a more profound manner.
    What Meowgi said "Drink a few beers and just sing what comes to mind as you play, and record it. You will probably get a basic structure later to refine." is fine advice. Good luck ;)
     
  14. Win

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    LOL, KD is a dry one, eh? ;)
     
  15. Fatty FatBastard

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    When I write a song, I have to do the chorus first. Honestly, the chorus' lick is the most important part to any song.

    After you've figured out your chorus, the rest comes easy. Just start finding **** that rhymes.

    I know it's a little pathetic, but when I'm trying to rhyme something, I'll literally go through the alphabet. ie: I'm trying to rhyme "elephant".

    I'll go:

    Ant
    Bant
    Cant
    Dant
    Eant
    Fant
    etc.

    Typically, I'll find something that fits.
     
  16. Win

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    I have a slant on
    Fatty's chant
    So get off yo ass
    like Ronnie or Townes Van Zant ;)
     
  17. moestavern19

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    Just stick it to Paula Abdul and the rest will take care of itself.
     
  18. Mr. Brightside

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    The greatest indie lyricists of our days today is Death Cab for Cutie. Emulate them and it will lead you to greatness.
     
  19. IROC it

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    With a pen and a pad. Write down any phrase you get that seems catchy, or rhymes as you want it to. Keep it with you everywhere.

    Even keep a notepad in the restroom. ;) Trust me.




    btw- I have been known to write lyrics for other people. If you have a topic I could help out with, lemme know.
     
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