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[disturbing] Dogs used as shark bait

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Faos, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. Rasselas

    Rasselas Member

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    See, this is reason #489 why I'm going to hell.

    I would have titled this thread: [Funny] Dogs used as shark bait
     
  2. Rockets Red Glare

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    Yeah I hope you do go. Nothing funny about this.
     
  3. Hammer755

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    This is obviously not real - it's from the Sun! It will be Snope'd within a few days.
     
  4. Mr Boo

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    I don't what how reliabe the Sun is, but I hope & trust that you are right Hammer....
     
  5. tim562

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    Thats bullsh!t.
     
  6. krosfyah

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    Just for the record, Reunion Island (where the dogs were found) is a place about the size of Rhode Island near Madagascar which was initilally inhabited by Arabs, Africans as well as the French hundreds of years ago. It's French controlled but they are probably 2,000+ miles away from France. But don't let me get in your way of blind hatred of the French.
     
  7. The Real Shady

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    I heard it's wise to use animals that can't breath under water as live bait.

    The french are idiots, but I can't believe that they're this dumb.
     
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

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    "I've got this freaking hook in my jugular." said one cat
    "And look at all those sharks." said another cat being dangled.
    "We're all going to be eatin alive."
    "**** that stuff." said another. "You think they are going to dip us in the water."
     
  9. Cohen

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    :rolleyes:
     
  10. PhiSlammaJamma

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    "Don't do it" said one tuna to another. "It's suicide. Look at all the sharks and the kittens."
    "I'm doin it." said the tuna
    "why?"
    "It doesn't matter anymore" He said. "Look around. It's the end of the world. p***y is dropping out the sky."
     
  11. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    nevermind
     
    #31 Rocketman95, Oct 3, 2005
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  12. krosfyah

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    Please see my post above. They are only French by a technicality. Would you take responsibility as an American for something a Puerto Rican did?
     
  13. PhiSlammaJamma

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    "How'd you get here?" said one dangling cat to the other.
    "Big black dude gave me a choice. The red pill or the blue pill. I chose this instead."
    "I know what you mean." said the other cat. "I know what you mean."
     
  14. m_cable

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    Well to be technical Puerto Rico has pretty close ties to the US. There's always talk about bringing them in as a State. I'd say a closer analogy would be American Samoa, or Guam.
     
  15. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

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    Guess I should have followed the link. What a crock!

    The pic is real but that's just another form of leash to walk the dog. ;)
     
  17. swilkins

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    I don't agree that stray dogs should be skewered, so when you are in France with your dog, keep it on a leash.
     
  18. Uprising

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    http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp

    Shark Bait

    Claim: Fisherman on Réunion Island employ live dogs as bait for shark-fishing.

    Status: Undetermined.

    Origins: The claim that live dogs (and cats) were being used as bait by shark fisherman on Réunion Island (a
    French-controlled territory just off the coast of Southern Africa in the Indian Ocean, east of Madagascar) started hitting the English-language press in August 2005 and picked up steam in early October 2005, when it was reported by publications such as the UK's Sun (an excerpt from which is quoted at the head of this page), complete with a heart-rending picture of a purported "bait dog" with a large hook through its muzzle. Animal rights groups such as the RSPCA have taken up the cause of putting a stop to the horrible practice.

    Many observers remain skeptical of such claims, however, positing theories that range from the media and animal rights groups having been taken in by a rumor and a manufactured or staged photo, to a deliberate disinformation campaign being waged by activists who seek to end the slaughter of sharks for their fins and cartilage by Indian Ocean fisherman. Arguments for and against the reality of this practice include:

    * Doubters maintain that waste parts from other animals could be obtained more cheaply, easily, and humanely and would serve far better as shark bait. Critics contend that such meat by-products are hard to come by on Réunion, but the island is home to a population of 150,000 unwanted stray dogs and cats easily caught and used for bait by fisherman (a point advanced in this French-language news report).

    * Doubters maintain that the widely-displayed image reproduced above (of the dog with a fishing hook placed through its snout) has obviously been digitally manufactured or staged because no evidence of blood, swelling, or redness is visible. Critics contend that such a piercing would not necessarily produce any of those visible symptoms. (Still others have hypothesized that the picture is merely an image of a dog that accidentally entangled itself in a large fishing hook, and it has been used as illustrative evidence for a completely unrelated story.)

    * Doubters maintain that the posited fishing method is not practical; that live dogs and cats would not attract sharks nearly as well as dismembered ones, and that their thrashings would quickly end as they drowned in the water. Critics contend that the blood produced by the animals' piercings, their initial struggles to escape, and the movement as they are dragged through the water from boats are sufficient to attract sharks, while doubters counter by claiming that the animals' struggles would quickly tear themselves free of the hooks, and that most sharks would simply take bites out of the live "bait" without going anywhere near the hooks.

    Given that a Réunion newspaper article reported the recent prosecution of an amateur fisherman on that island over animal cruelty charges associated with the described activity, we'd have to estimate that there probably is some truth to shark-fishing claim, although the practice may not be as widespread or horrific as implied by recent news stories — the article notes that it is largely the province of amateur fisherman who place their canine bait on boards attached to buoys rather than "dragging them behind boats," and that they generally pick up dead strays rather than catching and impaling live animals. Likewise, some of images displayed in news stories may possibly have been concocted or misidentified by those seeking to publicize and put an end to the practice.

    Last updated: 3 October 2005
     
  19. IROC it

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    Snopes or not, I know of a dog I'd volunteer for this. :mad:
     

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