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Greatest Americans to Never Become President?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thacabbage, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. thacabbage

    thacabbage Contributing Member

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    For the history buffs on here, I wonder who in your opinion were the greatest men to never become President of the United States? By this I mean, men who at their time were considered great candidates but for whatever reason never made it to the White House.

    I know Alexander Hamilton wasn't born here so he's out. What was Henry Clay's story?
     
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    Off the top of my head, Robert Kennedy.



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    I'm not sure who would be considered great candidates of their day, but here are some people who would've made great presidents.

    Benjamin Franklin
    Martin Luther King Jr.
    Ralph Nader
     
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    Nader couldn't help this country. He's an idealist, but a lot of what he's pushing for sounds good but isn't gonna make things better. His solution to the liveable minimum wage is to immediately increase it to $15, which well most likely

    1. Kill off a lot of smaller stores, mom and pop shops etc
    2. Increase inflation
    3. Be back at square one in five years, at which point he'll propose to hike it to $30.
     
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    Are we supposed to be able to vilify the choices of others? I could go on a long rant about how awful Nadir would be as President, but I don't think that was the object of the thread. I could be wrong. Actually, it might be fun! ;)



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    Martin Luther King Jr
     
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    Even though recent history has tarnished his reputation I still think Colin Powell would've made a great President.
     
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    I agree. RFK would have been President though. As painful as it is for me to say, Nixon would have lost to RFK. HHH was a terrible choice for the Democrats in 1968, as you probably remember. But at the same time, Sirhan Sirhan really did the Democrats in, and on a much grander scale, he did America in by robbing us of a true leader. The Dems didn't have much of a choice.
     
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    Albert Einstein
     
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    Martin Luther King
    Malcolm X
    Cornell West(probably my first choice)
    Caesar Chavez
    Jim Hightower
    Kinky Freidman
    Andrew Young
    Ramsey Clark
    Bill Moyers
    Robert Kennedy
     
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    Johnny F'ing Carson
     
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    That's a very good list. I don't agree with about half of your choices :) However, I can certainly see where you are coming from.
     
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    I'm sorry Deckard, I guess this is going to be more of a discussion than a debate thread (and here I wanted to layeth some verbal smacketh down) :D .

    So instead of arguing:

    Ben Franklin

    Martin Luther King Jr (see I like vwiggins other Choices)

    Abigail Adams (a woman ahead of her time)

    Collin Powell
     
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    Sam Houston

    I think he could have averted the Civil War. Here's my reasoning....... Sam had lifelong experiences with Indians. Texas, unlike other frontier states, had a very few Indian problems. In fact Texas only has two Indian Reservations in the entire state (src: http://www.forttours.com/pages/reserv.asp ).

    He refused to pledge support to the Confederacy and was thrown out of office. I think, his experiences during life (Indian knowledge, military experience, and political experience) could have put him in a position where he could have diffused the slavery and state's rights issues in the 1850's and averted the Civil War.

    I concede that the nation could have still split into two countries, but without the bloodshed and years of hatred the war brought to the country.
     
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    Ross Perot - yeah he was annoying but he wasn't shirking from talking about issues and I really believe we'd have seen a lot of positive change if he'd been elected.
     
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    A lot of preacher-type people on your list. I don't know how effective they would be as leaders though. They can inspire, but to what end?
     

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