I don't mean to start a flame war, but sometimes I get tired of people telling me what not to drive. I just got a large vehicle (not an SUV) and I got a good deal on it. The gas mileage is really biting right now, but it's in a lot better shape and more reliable than the compact I sold. Some people don't have a whole lot of choice in what they drive. Besides, every family needs at least one big vehicle for the purpose of hauling things, or if you want to do any driving offroad. Most of all - the way people drive here in Austin scares the living daylights out of me. At least I feel a lot safer now and can see the idiots from a greater distance. ------------------ Isabel,clutchcity.net lurker since 1996 All your base are belong to Heypartner.