Jay Williams Working Out for Houston : UPDATE - He's coming for a 2nd visit

Canada has higher taxes than US as well. minimum contracts can only be for 2 years - just like Bowen's deal.

 

is that like hoopshype light?

 

If he EARNS playing time, fine. The problem is we are trying to win now and there are several players ahead of him. Under JVG, Williams will only be on the court if he earns it. By the same token, if he earns time on the floor JVG will definitely give it to him. Unless Williams plays a whole lot better than his rookie year, he has no chance of getting into the rotation this season.

 

AGREED!! AT ANY PRICE.

 

i've said it before he can go to the NBDL u can send players in their first 2 years, this would be his second year. If he is fully healed he should be dominating at that level. At that point hopefully around the all star break he could be ready to come back.

and people lets be realistic here the only guard on our roster that is under 30 is rookie Luther Head and he is unproven, chances are more than a couple games from the point will be lost to injury, Sura's always sorta banged up and there will be some minutes mid season for a jay williams, espeically if we are playing well and we wanna rest Sura and wesley for playoffs.

 

I dont know if this is already posted, but realgm.com is reporting that they are not in the mix to get Jay Williams. Pat Riley indicated that they already have players that are in developmental situation and dont want any more players like that. I guess Rockets has a better chance now.

 

OOps sorry...CORRECTION: i meant to say Miami is not in the mix to get Jay Williams.

 

If he'll play in the NBDL he should be our 16th player in the roster. Is it possible?

 

Yes - and he'd be our 17th. We'd have to cut 2 if we signed him to a guaranteed contract

 

Is that a good thing? I'm not sure the rox really need him. We are a team that is on its way to be a championship team and thus we need all of our role players to make a contribution in one way or another. By the way it sounds, JWill is at least a year or two away from being able to contribute if he's lucky. I agree that he's cheap and a low risk option, but we need all of our players to be able to have an effect on matchups against other teams at least once in awhile than just waiting to be healed. That being said, I trust that CD and JVG will make the correct decision and I'll support their decision whatever it will be.

 

I concede that Bowen will probably play 4 times the amount of minutes that
JWilliams would play,but should that be regarded as something good? I really
like the way people substitute hustle & energy for productivity.

Vin Baker<<<<<<------->>>>>>Ryan Bowen

ppg : 1.3<<<<<<------->>>>>>ppg: 1.7
rpg : 1.4<<<<<<------->>>>>>rpg: 1.2
apg : .4<<<<<<------->>>>>>apg: .3

I guess we should also consider Baker to be a high energy & hustle player
that every team needs. Hustle & energy should only be applauded in a youth
basketball league. In the NBA productivity is the only thing that truly matters.
If chemistry is taken into account then perhaps the Bowen signing was good
for the team because I'm sure he is a good teammate, but judging by
productivity alone his stats are a dime-a-dozen, there are literally hundreds
of collegian players who could put up those stats. I understand that signing
JWilliams is a genuine gamble but if he makes a full recovery the rewards are going to be seen for years to come. I think that is why CD & JVG wanted to
see him try out for the team. For good or for worse they are the ones who
have to make the call.

P.S. (I hope they have a crystal ball!)

 

Here's the catch, if we were to sign him, it most likely wouldn't be long term. If he did well in the limited time he got, he'd likely leave and get a good contract somewhere else, if he didn't do well, he'll likely be sitting on the end of the bench. Don't get me wrong, I love low-risk, high-reward type players, but if we only offer a 1-2 year contract and if it's unlikely he'll play much, I don't see the point. Honestly, after reading the most recent article about the Rainman (Shawn Kemp) I'd much rather take a chance on him in a position we badly need help than a recovering JWill. Now, if we were to offer him a 2-3+ year deal for low money, I'd take a chance, but I don't see why we should be the team that makes him, while another reaps the rewards. And I just don't see JWill as being (DA-Loyal) although I could be wrong.

 

They signed Bowen because he's cheap, and because his spastic style of defense seems to throw some players off (cf. Nowitzki in the first two games of the Houston/Dallas series).

Baker was a tag-along in a trade. Given a choice, I expect management wouldn't even have given him a look.

 

God knows,I hope Williams beats the odds and makes it back to actually play in the NBA.That being said,I think the Hurley analogy is an apt one.JW had crazy athletic ability,the same physical skills that made him the 3rd pick.That advantage is gone now and most likely Jay won't even remotely resemble that player.Great defense,getting to the hoop,and running the break were his forte.It's a shame.Further it is my belief that the Houston Rockets will be competing for an NBA title,and thus will have no room on the roster for someone who can't provide quality depth now.Yes,there is upside potential,but IMO not nearly as much as some seem to believe.Let Jay crank out his miracle,if he can do it,with another team.

 

He might of loss his quickness but if he can still pass and shoot i think he can be valuable to this team as a backup

 

If I remember right, I think his quickness was his strongest asset, without it, I think he'll be a younger version of Ward at this point.

 

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2005/09/16/1219899-sun.html

Raps hunting for third guard

By STEVE BUFFERY -- Toronto Sun

However, former Duke University star Jay Williams is still in the picture.

The Raps have offered Williams a non-guaranteed contract for about $640,000, which is close to their salary cap limit.

Williams has been travelling to various NBA cities the past week, working out for teams such as the Miami Heat, Houston Rockets and the Raptors.

Despite the fact that he was involved in a serious motorcycle accident in 2003, which resulted in a fractured pelvis and torn knee ligaments, Babcock was impressed with the 2002 U.S. college player of the year.

Williams averaged 9.5 points and 4.7 assists for the Chicago Bulls as a rookie.

 

damn I hope we get him

 

If he has the miracle comeback to close to his prior level, then we still have the MLE and luxury tax room next summer to resign him.

 

And this is a bad thing?