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N.O. police rescuers to female survivors of Katrina: show us your t*** or byebye

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wnes, Sep 7, 2005.

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  1. wnes

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    There is a time for sexual indulgence, but that was not the time during rescue operation. The crimes and corruptions on the local levels make me wonder maybe the city of New Orleans was supposed to be destroyed in a Biblical proportion?

    Storm Survivors Told To 'Expose Themselves'

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/06092005/140/storm-survivors-told-expose-themselves.html

    Tuesday September 6, 03:28 PM

    A group of female hurricane survivors were told to show their breasts if they wanted to be rescued, a British holidaymaker has revealed.Ged Scott watched as American rescuers turned their boat around and sped off when the the women refused.

    The account was just another example of the horror stories emerging from the hurricane disaster zone.

    Mr Scott, 36, of Liverpool, was with his wife and seven-year-old daughter in the Ramada Hotel when the flood waters started rising.

    "At one
    point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts," he told the Liverpool Evening Echo.

    "When the girls refused, they said `Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."

    At one point he had to wade through filthy water to barricade the hotel doors against looters.

    He said the experience made him want to vomit.

    Mr Scott also slated the rescue operation, saying police were more interested in taking snapshots of the devastation rather than rescuing the victims.

    "I could not have a lower opinion of the authorities, from the police officers on the street right up to George Bush," he said.

    "I couldn't describe how bad the authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us, as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little snapshot albums"

    He added: "The American people saved us. I wish I could say the same for the American authorities."

    Mike Brocken, of Chester, said he feared his wife Christine and 18-year-old daughter Stephanie would be raped when they went into the Louisiana Superdome.

    The family were also racially abused by other refugees in the stadium.

    Mr Brocken, a BBC Radio Merseyside presenter and music lecturer, told the station: "We were going to go inside the Superdome.

    "I approached two members of the National Guard and they said to stay outside because they knew it was hell in there.

    "One female office basically said under no circumstances take the women in there, because she knew what it was like.

    "We were so frightened and we stayed alongside the National Guard for some kind of protection.

    "It was at that stage that they started to take us under their wing and eventually managed to get us into the basketball stadium."

    He added: "Everyone talks about the National Guard in rather derogatory ways historically, but I've got to say that, but for them, and one man in particular, I may well have lost my family."
     
    #1 wnes, Sep 7, 2005
  2. The Real Shady

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    Maybe if the officer's had beads it would have worked out.
     
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  3. ima_drummer2k

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    wnes, you posted this article as a joke, right? Yeah, I'm sure the NOPD was running around telling women to show their t*** or else they wouldn't rescue them. I hear that the Girls Gone Wild crew was filming the whole thing for their next DVD. :rolleyes:

    It's blows my mind how many so called mainstream news agencies these days will run with a story without ANY corroberation whatsoever. I guess it's more important to scope everyone than it is to actually double check your facts. It's getting to the point where you just can't believe anything you read anymore.
     
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  4. Cohen

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    Why are you so quick to dismiss the report?
     
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  5. The Real Shady

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    This is coming from an overseas news source so there is little crediblity. I'm sure they will run any story that will make America look bad. Even if it is true though who cares about a couple of bad seeds. Look at a majority of the officers, firefighters, and federal guard who were out there risking their lives to save people.
     
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  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, have you heard any other reports similar to this one from any other news agency? I mean this story is about a week old and I haven't heard a peep about it from any of the news agencies or news channels that have been covering this story 24/7 since last Monday. As hungry as they are for 'juicy' stories, don't you think someone else would have jumped on this by now?

    Oh yeah, and I have a family memeber who is a NOLA police officer. He's hold up in a hotel near the Quarter with about 100 other cops waiting to be rescued. Like him, many of them have lost everything. I'm pretty sure those guys have a little bit more on their minds than dreaming up ways to get free peeks at t*tties.
     
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  7. Space Ghost

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    If its negative, you can count on wnes to post it.
     
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  8. wnes

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    drummer, the quick dismissal from you is not surprising. Maybe the "us-against-them" mentality got the better of you. Maybe one day you would also voluntarily and promptly blast an "unconfirmed or uncorroberated" story from the sources like Drudge Report or Tech Central Station. But until then, your "neutrality" is on the line. Mind you, this comes from Skynews - one of the largest medium sources in UK (a US ally, mind you again). If you guys are so concerned about foreign news media "smearing" US images with false reports, take it with them. I am sure Skynews is more than willing to stand by its stories and to convince you angry American gentlemen with the truth.

    Nowhere does this news slam the entire NOPD organization, all it does is exposing the darkness of a screwed up rescue campaign, the moral/ethical corruptions, and the deviate behaviors demonstrated by some cops. By dismissing the whole report, you also conveniently ignored the gratitude these Brits expressed towards American people, and especially, our National Guards.
     
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  9. mleahy999

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    When in Rome...

    I would give it credence if they were talking about all the scumbag criminals in NOLA. I don't understand how anyone could sexually assualt another person at time like this. If I just lost my home and had to loot for food, the last thing on my mind is getting some ass.
     
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  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    The article doesn't mention that they were stranded on top of a Hooters.
     
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  11. ima_drummer2k

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    OK, I'm not sure where you're going with this. "Us-against-them" mentality? Who is "us" and who is "them" in this story? If Drudge would have reported this (I'm surprised he didn't frankly) I would have said the same thing.

    OK, that's nice. I still don't believe it.

    I thought that's what I was doing. You pasted the article so I replied to it.

    What truth? I was under the impression that the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accusee.

    Assuming this story is true, which you seem to be pretty sure of.

    Oddly enough, the 2nd part of the story is over a week old. Someone posted it in one of the Katrina threads last week. I think it was even word-for-word. That's what struck me as weird. This story is over a week old and NO ONE else has picked up on it? Not even Drudge?

    wnes, this may seem hard for you to understand, but I'm not trying to make any larger political point here. I'm just saying I don't believe cops are riding around New Orleans in boats yelling "SKIN TO WIN!!!" at women who are trapped on top of their houses. That's it.
     
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  12. wnes

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    Fine, drummer. The story is there for viewers to see, so it's up to you to believe or otherwise. I don't follow every post in Katrina threads - since there are so many of them - but if I repost the same story that appeared a week ago on this BBS, I apologize.

    "Us" vs "them", really is about what news outlets you and I normally read and approve or disapprove. Apparently, more often than not, you and I are at the different positions of political spectrum. It seems to me that you tend to dismiss outright everything that does not come from a limited number of sources you choose to read, especially the news that is perceived negative by you. This particular report, however, doesn't involve any anonymous witnesses who recounted their ordeals in New Orleans. I don't know what really upsets you, the selective, negative reporting by Skynews and BBC (which I clearly understand if I am on opposite camp), or the deliberate fabrication of a horror story by the British news media to denigrate N.O. cops? Or is there anything else I am missing here?
     
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  13. langal

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    My God. US Policemen ARE evil. This proves it!

    This trail of scum leads all the way up to the White House.

    Anyone who doubts the veracity of this news must be a gunslingin', Budweiser drinking', Marlboro smokin', Republican racist scum.
     
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    No need to be so defensive. If you wouldn't do terrible things, or most of the US law enforcement or authorities wouldn't do such things, it doesn't mean that no one would ever do that; it also doesn't mean that none of the policeman would ever do that. We see dirty cops in American movies all the time. I just looked at it as a piece of story, and I don't have any facts to support me to believe it, but I have not seen anyone here dismissed the story right away providing anything to prove that is a lie.

    What do we become now? We pick a side first, then dismiss everything bad about our side, and support everything good about it. Facts and rational are just secondary. Is it really helping the side we pick?

    The prison abuse scandal was old old news before it broke out. I still remember at the time it first emerged, lots of people jumped out and dismissed it right away, without any factual backing. Why don't we all calm down, wait and see?
     
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  15. langal

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    you absolutely right. i'm just being sarcastic. the guy (drummer) above stated some valid reasons to doubt the truth of this article and was branded some sort of "us vs. them" drudgereport guy.
     
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    Get a clue. He was being sarcastic.
     
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  17. Ottomaton

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    Given his advert for Phil Hendrie in his signature as additional evidence, the drudgereport reference isn't so completely out of thin air.

    If one would like corroborative evidence of police misconduct, one need only look at the reports of looting by police that have appeared in this forum to several days ago.

    This type of thing isn't breaking news. These are known failings of the City of New Orleans and the State of Louisiana and have been since before the days of Blaze Starr and Huey Long.

    It seems to be stylish among the Fox News/Phil Hendrie crowd to attack foreigners for criticism of the way they cover the Hurricane in much the same way that Arab countries focus hatred on Israel in order to provide a conduit against unfocused rage which might be directed at them and instead at somebody they already dislike.

    I can’t comment on the veracity of the specific story, but to claim that there’s no contextual basis for belief indicates a knee-jerk anti-foreignism and a lack of understanding of the history of Louisiana.
     
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    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40305


    Hey it's in the onion, it's gotta be true.
     
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  19. NewYorker

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    That is one dark Onion issue.

    I really don't think the article regard cops wanting to show t*tties is real. These cops might be going through withdrawl from Bourbon Street to be sure, but as corrupt as they are, the story just sounds ridiculous.

    Nothing saying it can't happen, but it just doesn't sound plausable.
     
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