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Teenage girls, fertility, and materialism

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. basso

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    i don't know what to think of this. as a father of a three-year old girl, i'm probably not the best person to ask, but i certainly enjoy the endless summertime parade of pulchritude on display on NYC streets...

    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0814-26.htm

    i've edited a significant portion of the article that isn't of direct interest.

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    In Praise of Female Sexuality
    By Paul Sheehan

    It's time someone praised and defended reckless teenage girls and young women who behave badly, dress provocatively, engage in risky sex, and get pregnant. They are the normal ones. The rest of us are the deviants. They are behaving in the most natural way. The rest of us are mutants.

    There is nothing wrong with pelvic display, push-up bras, Gosford miniskirts, spray-on jeans, low-cut tops, bare legs, bare arms, bare ankles, G-strings or even buttock cleavage, providing the displayer is young enough to get away with it. A woman's body is at its fertility peak between the ages of 17 and 23. So when young women advertise or flaunt their sexuality they are being driven by a force far stronger than the Judeo-Christian ethic. They are driven by the power of peak fertility and a million years of evolutionary biology. Nature has programmed them for pregnancy, genetic diversity and keeping the species going. A big job.

    Sexually active teenage girls, and sexually promiscuous women of any age, carry the greatest social burden of judgements, punishments, restrictions and risks because we haven't got the child-care equation right. These women are just doing their job. They are real, while the rest of the equation is artificial. Society is the collective weight of traditions, conventions, laws, habits, fears, tribes, taboos and technologies, permeated by a Judeo-Christian ethic dominated by men and designed to curb female sexual power. Our norms are also dominated by the ideology of materialism that is moving women further and further towards unnatural behaviour, pressuring them to have babies later rather than sooner.

    This is society's real problem. Teenage pregnancy is trivial by comparison to suppressed pregnancy.

    A healthier society would allow women to have children earlier than they do now. At 32, no matter what people want to believe, the reproductive system is far less robust than it was 10 years earlier. Our aim should be to have children born into a culture where there is plenty of support for child care in addition to the mother, thus liberating mothers to more fully exploit the possibilities that advanced society can offer them.

    Children are the most important asset in our culture, so society should be structured around this central reality. Instead, we are structuring society around consumerism - a treadmill of bigger homes, more possessions, more holidays, more glamour - for which we run the risk of becoming impoverished. When the pattern of peak reproduction at peak fertility is broken, as it is now, women are forced by economic circumstances or social pressure to postpone pregnancy. Collective fertility inevitably falls, usually below replacement level. Societies such as Australia's and most in Western Europe now depend on imported fertility. Immigrants.... The tension between fertility and materialism is one of the great unresolved dilemmas of our time, not just for women, but for society.
     
  2. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    The first part of that had me me all pumped up thinking, "Hell YES!! Let's all go out and ****!!"

    But the last two paragraphs were a real buzz killer.
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    With 6+ billion people in the world, is it really that bad if we have reproductive rates below replacement level? That just seems like good planning for the future to me, especially considering the limited nature of our planets natural resources. Once they discover some more planets for us to expand onto, then we will try to get back to wanton reproduction. Having said that, I am all for hot chicks wearing revealing clothing, as long as you have the goods to make it work.
     
  4. wnes

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    Agree 100%.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    these kind of articles are funny

    Rocket River
     
  6. MartianMan

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    i agree, it is funny

    Rocket River

    ...oops...i mean MartianMan
     
  7. KingCheetah

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    Fertile teen girls...
     
  8. Hippieloser

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    Well, I've always suspected that the young babes I see at the beach flaunting their insanely hot asses are, deep down, merely craving for the glory of caring for an infant.
     
  9. arno_ed

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    exactly, the human race is a plague for this world. And it will nto end well if we keep getting bigger. Every plague is stopped in nature one way or the other. We already had the black plague when we got to many people. I'm wondering what the next thing will be. My gues is again some sort of desease.
     
  10. pirc1

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    Exactly. I do not understand the need for any family to have more than three kids.
     
  11. mleahy999

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    The world is projected to increase it's population by 3 billion more by 2050. India will add 600 million more people to become the most populous country. 80% of India's children is living in poverty. Not good. PIITB instead.

    PREDICTED POPULATIONS, 2050
    1 India, 1,628m (2)
    2 China, 1,437m (1)
    3 United States, 420m (3)
    4 Indonesia, 308m (4)
    5 Nigeria, 307m (9)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/3575994.stm
     
  12. Dubious

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    I support simulated reprodution.

    You can't deny your hormones, sex is the most fun people can have. But it's a silly anachronism to say people should be reproducing at a rate that expands the world population. If we each only produced two offspring and let the natural attrition bring the planet's population down to around 3 billion over a hundred years it would do a lot toward slowing global warming and bringng peace on the planet.

    But you would need a world wide leftist government to provide the support for older people to break the idea that more children means a more secure retirement. Or a world wide right wing government that triaged resources so that nonproductive people die off. Aaaahaahhaa Aaaahaaa!

    (oh wait, that would be me)
     
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    The world would be much better off with far fewer people.
     
  14. Saint Louis

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    [​IMG]

    Or we just need to institue a worldwide "Renew" system.
     
  15. MadMax

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    are you planning on eliminating someone?? :)
     
  16. wnes

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    I bet China is more than happy to let some other country to take away the dubious honor of being "the most populous nation on earth".

    One of the most notable contributions to mankind by the post-Mao CCP, IMO.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    That's not my job, but I maybe I should put in an application... :D
     
  18. MadMax

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    i am absolutely baffled by how someone could feel that way. i realize cultural differences are at play. but when i hear someone say something like this, culture shock sets in on me big time.
     
  19. wouldabeen23

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    "Don't run St. Louis"


    "everyone runs Wouldabeen"
     
  20. Saint Louis

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    I love fertile teen girls!
     

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