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At a time of reform, Egypt examines the possibility of an Islamist political party

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  1. HayesStreet

    HayesStreet Member

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    Read this and thought how odd it is that some of us applaud the opening through reform in places like Egypt - when that could lead to an Islamist regime but term it a disaster in Iraq.

    Khaljee Times (my feed just went out, I can give link if needed later)

    At a time of reform, Egypt examines the possibility of an Islamist political party
    (AP)

    22 August 2005



    CAIRO, Egypt - Nearly 10 years ago, Abu’l-Ela Madi was jailed when he first proposed creating an Islamist party in Egypt. Now, he seems closer than ever to achieving his dream - and if he does, it will further alter his country’s already changing political landscape.


    If Madi’s Al Wasat party is approved, it will launch a new experiment in incorporating Egypt’s powerful - but long banned - fundamentalist forces group says that Sharia, or Islamic law, is open to interpretation. It stresses tolerance, equality between the sexes and does not forbid women or Christians from a leadership role.

    But in the eyes of the hardline Brotherhood, these stances are blasphemous.

    “We will never participate in Al Wasat, we are taking two very different paths,” Mohammed Habib, deputy leader of the Brotherhood, said in an interview. “They have exceeded what are principles for us, like the possibility of a Copt becoming president and a woman becoming a leader,” he said.

    Madi, 47, was jailed five times, first as a university student in southern Egypt. He started in politics with the Gamaa Al Islamiyya, or Islamic group, but left when it espoused violence and before it assassinated President Anwar Sadat in 1981.

    In 1979 he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, but split with the group in 1996 and applied for the creation of Al Wasat. Still, the government arrested him and a number of his colleagues, suspecting that his project was just a front for the banned Brotherhood.

    Madi believes that Islamists are partly to blame for the tumultuous relationship with the government, and the fear in which, they are held by the country’s ruling elite and secular citizens.

    “The Islamist trend is a problem and part of the cause. The fact that it’s not included in a political life is causing a problem, as are feelings of oppression and exclusion, which have pushed some to violence,” Madi said. “But the Islamists didn’t address the fears of the regime and the elite, and the ideological differences became a personal conflict,” he added.

    One way to address such fears is to stress democratic goals, he said.

    “We want a balanced relationship with America, and we’re not in a position of eternal animosity with the regime,” Madi said. “We are part of efforts to renew reforms in democratic thought and practice here.”

    Madi is a leading member of the largely secular anti-Mubarak movement known as Kifaya, Arabic for “enough.” He takes pride that the movement was born at his house, when key Kifaya leaders - including Copts- met for a meal to break the fast during the holy month of Ramadan two years ago.

    For the government, Al Wasat could provide a way to peacefully channel conservative Islamic forces in Egypt at a time when Mubarak is under US pressure for reform - and when Egypt fears a revival of Islamic militants after recent terror attacks in Sinai.

    The regime wants “to present an Islamist group with a reforming face,” said Nabil Abdel Fattah, a researcher of political Islam. “To what extent Al Wasat will fit the role the government wants them to play, remains to be seen, and their fate...depends on that.”
     
  2. tigermission1

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    There isn't much to fear from any opposition group, Mubarak will win the election hands down, although I am encouraged by the lively, provoking, and thoughtful televised debates among the opposition candidates.

    Egypt is really an interesting blend of democratic and autocratic principles. For example: there is a more press freeedom in Egypt than almost anywhere else in the Arab world (besides Al-Jazeera that is). In the last Parliamentary elections in Egypt in 2000, the ruling NDP party actually didn't win a majority of the seats, although later on almost the entire rank of the newly elected independent candidates joined the NDP, therefore giving the party about 90% of the Parliament.

    I think egypt is the key to democracy in the region, because historically speaking Egypt is the intellectual and cultural center of the Arab world, and as Egypt goes so does the Arab world; they usually start a trend that ends up affecting everyone else in the region.

    I think the recent reforms are a good step, but there still remains much to be done. The first and most important thing is to restore the seperation and independence of government institutions, especially the legal system (courts). Perhaps even more important is to eradicate the widespread corruption in every facet of Egyptian life that is absolutely destructive and demoralizing for the citizens. Corruption must end first, and then a democracy could follow. A corrupt democracy would do no good at all and, in fact, would be even more harmful and unstable.
     
  3. Greg M

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    That's interesting news. Looks like they're just throwing the Islamists a bone. Not a meaty one but one that will keep some people gnawing for awhile. Give Islamists a voice in the government but don't give a voice to the militant ones.

    I think it's a good move by the government. They've put a stranglehold on Islamists since Sadat's assasination. They deserve a voice in a political forum, as does everybody. Yes Mubarak will win in a landslide, but hopefully things will open up more after this election. Mubarak's like 98 years old and his successor probably won't be as friendly to the US. If he's not, the presence of an Islamic party places more validity on the election process. I think that gives more weight, in the people's view, to all the parties. I think it also provides a healthy contrast with a more pro-US approach.

    As far as corruption in Egypt, forget about it. As long as the government employs half the country to keep unemployment down, it's going to take a lot of baqsheesh(bribes) to get things done. Most of the government workers make next to nothing so they need to use what power they have to their advantage. Improve Egypt's economy and you might be able to make a fair dent into the corruption levels.
     

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