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[ESPN] No thanks: Nets nix Abdur-Rahim deal; Acquire (Marc) Jackson

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  1. thelasik

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2129971

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.-- The New Jersey Nets on Tuesday rescinded their trade with the Portland Trail Blazers for forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim and acquired forward Marc Jackson from Philadelphia.


    The Abdur-Rahim trade was put on hold last week after the nine-year veteran failed a physical. The Nets didn't disclose the nature of the medical problem, but team president Rod Thorn said it was something neither Abdur-Rahim nor the Trail Blazers knew about.


    "Obviously we weren't aware of it, and after all the conversations back and forth, I don't think the player was aware there was any problem," Thorn said. "He hadn't missed any games regarding this. To my knowledge, [Portland] wasn't aware of it."


    The Nets had planned to use their trade exception to acquire the 29-year-old Abdur-Rahim, who has averaged 19.9 points and 8.1 rebounds in nine years with Vancouver, Atlanta and Portland. With the trade exception scheduled to expire at midnight Tuesday, New Jersey was forced to scramble to make a deal.


    "We had a list of guys we had interest in, and he was at the top of our list," Thorn said. "We thought he would fit in very well with us."


    New Jersey quickly set its sights on the 30-year-old Jackson, acquiring him from the 76ers for cash and future considerations. The 6-foot-10 center-forward averaged 12 points and five rebounds in 81 games for Philadelphia last season. He has averaged nine points and 4.7 rebounds in five NBA seasons with Golden State, Minnesota and the 76ers.


    "He's a good shooter, he's a force down low and draws a lot of fouls," Thorn said. "We feel he's a player who can play in our rotation and help us."


    New Jersey had agreed to a six-year deal with Abdur-Rahim, who was acquired earlier this month for a 2006 first-round pick and the Nets' trade exception.


    "After consulting with several noted specialists, we felt that rescinding the trade is our best course of action," Thorn said.


    Abdur-Rahim missed 22 games with the Blazers last season after undergoing surgery in mid-January to remove loose particles in his right elbow. Thorn said that the Nets tried negotiating a different deal with Abdur-Rahim in recent days, but that he didn't want to change the agreement that was in place.


    "We were notified by New Jersey this afternoon that they were rescinding the sign and trade for Shareef Abdur-Rahim," Trail Blazers general manager John Nash said Tuesday. "They cited some concerns after a physical examination and believe that rescinding the trade is in their best interest. The contract that was agreed to with Shareef becomes null and void and he is now a free agent."
     
  2. gucci888

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    The Nets have blown this whole thing totally out of proportion. While I understand their caution on this deal, replacing him w/ Marc Jackson isn't really enough.

    If the Nets have a bad year, I really see JKIdd kicking up a storm with Thorn.
     
  3. roswell raygun

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    What a horrible way to run a franchise. The Nets have alienated their fans, their star players and probably any free agents that were thinking about going there. They started free agency as one of the most attractive destinations in a very good market for free agents and all they have to show for it is Marc Jackson.
    Imagine the reaction on this board if the Rockets had done something like this with Stromile Swift. Carroll Dawson would have been villified for the rest of his life.
    Do the Nets really want to win or do they just want to demonstrate how tough or clever they think they are. Whatever, they've just gone from contenders to also-rans in one bad move.
     
  4. foodworld

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    So they nix the SAR deal because of SAR's health...

    and they replace him with Marc Jackson, the most physically brittle player in the NBA!
     
  5. apostolic3

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    The Rockets did the same thing with Sean Elliott several years ago. I remember him being interviewed from his hotel room in Houston by 740KTRH. Then a few days later, the trade was off because of his kidney. I don't think CD would have been villified on this board if this happened with Swift. Most of the consistent posters here have their head on straight and would understand the risks.

    Jason Kidd made some comments on Sunday that indicated he was very understanding of the Nets dilemma. Maybe they shared some of the confidential material with him. Then again, maybe he will be ticked off now that the deal is officially dead.

    I don't blame the Nets on pulling out of this trade if they weren't comfortable with SAR's health. The Nets didn't disclose the nature of the medical problem, but team president Rod Thorn said it was something neither Abdur-Rahim nor the Trail Blazers knew about. The Nets tried to redo the deal to protect themselves but SAR refused to budge.

    Let's chill, take a deep breath and not judge something so harshly when we don't know all of the facts.
     
  6. RareAir

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    What???? does the guy have some terminal disorder?????
    The Nets are covering their arses so they can save face with their fans by saying it's SAR's fault he didn't know the condition.....
    Dude's been playing for 9 years in the NBA, and is supposed to be in excellent physical condition....you think a dude's gonna be playing that long and after playing for 3 - 4 NBA teams that no one's gonna find some hidden problem?????
    Nets suck.
     
  7. HOOP-T

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    The article states again that he failed a physical. I have heard he didn't fail anything, but a concern was uncovered.

    Which is it?
     
  8. sydmill

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    Some of y'all need to chill out until we eventually find out what the problem is. Dude could have a heart problem like Reggie Lewis for all we know or perhaps he has a problem like TJ Ford that was never a problem until he got hit exactly right one night. If in fact it is something petty then I will help every one blast them, but I doubt they went "from contenders to pretenders" for no good reason.
     
  9. Desert Scar

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    A different situation. Elliott wasn't part of a sign and trade that was negotiated after SAR agreed to a much below market value contract and put all the pressure on Portland to make this deal happen. SAR had continually showed great faith to the Nets.

    Well, look at it this way, they were getting SAR at a 40%+ discount (look at Walker's contract). Even if there is a 30% chance this will be a major chronic problem (SAR has been durable and productive for a long time--a fair bet) they were still getting a reasonable deal. Asking SAR to renegoitate an already WAY below market contract is out of line IMO.

    For the Nets to come out looking decent in all this SAR is about going to have to produce nothing the rest of his career. Anything more than 160 or so decent games in the rest of his career they the Nets look real bad.

    Time will tell, but IMO the Nets are screwed. Unless this injury thing was close to a sure thing to ruin SARs career they should have just followed through. Both because they still have a great chance to get value at of that contract (if SAR is 70+%) and to keep respect with players/agents.
     
  10. yakitori

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    I don't understand this. SAR has never missed a game due to knee problem which was injury he got in high school. Last year, he injured his elbow but that has healed. Dunno why Nets are making big deal about injury he suffered like 10 years ago.
     
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    I agree with the Nets. There is a reason that players have to pass the physical before they sign any contract. SAR is supposed to sign a 5 years contract, which is a loooong contract.
     
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    New Jersey just turned themselves from a serious player in the East to a team desperately fighting for the 7th or 8th seed. Nice job! Marc Jackson, wow. We almost made that mistake.
     
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    We know what the problem is, they were examining the scar on an old injury, that was made clear by everyone.
     
  14. KellyDwyer

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    I remember watching the 1996 Draft and they were talking about Shareef's knees, the guy has worn Ewing-like pads on both knees in every year of his NBA career. He has achy knees.

    Why this was enough for the Nets to dump, I don't know. They were going after the 2001 All-Star team as their starting lineup, and nearly had it. I wasn't as big on the Shareef signing (I'm not one of those who thinks he's incapable of contributing to a playoff team, but I'm not a huge fan of his game), but there's no reason to dump him at that price. He was the perfect old-school/big name/"looks good on paper" part for this team to win 45 games, so why dump him?

    This has Ratner written all over it. Hopefully he doesn't read the BBS, otherwise he'll have one of his flunkies call me up again to b**** at me.
     
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    JEEZ, guys you have to cut the Nets some slack. You are jumping to some huge conclusions. From the thread starter read this statement: "The Nets didn't disclose the nature of the medical problem, but team president Rod Thorn said it was something neither Abdur-Rahim nor the Trail Blazers knew about." Yet, some of you persist in saying that you know inside information about his injury. I don't know the nature of his injury/illness except from what I read in one news blurb, where they got their information is suspect. I am quite certain SAR knew about his old high school injury so maybe that isn't the problem at all. Everyday thousands of people who were well yesterday are sick/injured today. Without further information it is impossible to know.
     
  16. Desert Scar

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    What we do know is

    -SAR showed great faith to the Nets this whole offseason (including pressuring Portland) when he could have been shopping and had other deals lined up.

    -SAR agreed to a much below contract only with the Nets, probably 40%+ under market.

    -SAR has been durable and productive for a long career yet he is only 28.

    IT BETTER be a career threatening injury and SAR better be a shadow of what he was before while he finishes out his career or the Nets just look awefull. So yes krocket, time will tell, but my hunch is the Nets not only made their team far inferior (Marc J for SAR :p ), but have majorly tarnished their organization in terms of dealing with future FAs and agents. I don't like the Nets or Kidd (or the Blazers), so the events are fine to me with the exception of the personal effects on the chap involved (SAR)--not that I know anything personally about him. SARs future performance and health must validate this decision or the Nets are screwed :D
     
  17. apostolic3

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    The only thing needed to validate the Nets concerns are release of whatever it is that concerned them. Thorn specifically said it was something both the team and SAR were previously unaware of. If the x-ray/MRI shows a significant risk, the Nets are justified whether SAR does well somewhere else or not. They are not required to play the lottery. Another determining factor will be what SAR gets elsewhere. If another team gives him the full MLE without protections, this will cast doubt on the Nets. If SAR's new team gets provisions from him he would not grant the Nets, then the Nets point will be proven. I also want to get a read from Jason Kidd. If he seems understanding of the Nets viewpoint, that's another check mark on their side. Let's wait a little bit for stuff to leak out before trashing the Nets management.

    All the stuff about this damaging the Nets in the eyes of other FAs is way premature. Due diligence is a part of doing business, even in the NBA. The kneejerk overreaction by many here is amazing to me. That said, I will jump on the "bash the Nets" bandwagon later if the facts merit.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    The Nets blew their trade exception on Marc Jackson? lol! Every year SAR continues to put up solid numbers will get Nets fans that much more annoyed with management. And, Marc Jackson continuing to suck will only make it worse.
     
  19. Will

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    They get SAR; we get Swift. Our acquisition holds up; theirs blows up. Three words: Eddie Griffin. Karma.
     
  20. KellyDwyer

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    How bad does it speak to my man-love of 6-11 guys who can shoot that, for every trade involving Marc Jackson since 2002 (starting with the Warrior/Timberwolves deal), I've gone, "ooh, good pickup."
     

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