I can't help it, why do girls have this effect on men?

Yep. Look at the mother and you are looking 20 years into the future at what the girl will be like.

Best bit of advice I was ever given.

 

here is my take on it.

Knowing girls these days, she is probably not happy with you & her sex life. This is why she chose to break up with you by pretending to have sex with someone else. I know you do all the other things right in the relationship, but what about the sex life? Had you ever thought of that? Thats like one of the #1 priorities for girls these days.

 

I've found recently that this t-shirt slogan I saw not long ago basically sums up the average younger woman:

Ignore Me and I'm Yours

What is up with that?

 

be a man...so she does'nt like you as much as you like her....get over it....she's a wack for pretending to **** another guy anywayz...who the hell would do that to break up...seriously....you can do better...if she can not appreciate you and what you do for her...then seriously there's something wrong wiht her....would you want to have kids with a woman like that...i think not....

 

[bitter & cynical] Probably because it works. [/bitter & cynical]

 

Video tade yourself giving the Baqui to the mom and fed ex a copy to the daughter, then cut all ties and move on with your life.

 

I remember there being a short indy film like this. A guy got dumped by his girlfriend, and to get revenge dated her mom. The ex then got angry and jealous watching her mom go out, and even see her make breakfast for his ex. The guy intentionally making out with the mom while the ex looks out of the window in the house. It was hilarious and pure genius.

 

First and foremost, I have to ask you why in the hell I should even give you any advice at all? Hmmm? I mean, I was right about the phone call being fake, wasn't I? If you're not going to listen to me, even though I'm right, why should I waste my time on you?

uggh... alright... here goes...

It's over. Done. You must accept that. Say it out loud to yourself. IT'S OVER. She's gone. It won't get better. It CAN'T get better, and you f***'ing know it. Accept the reality of the situation and react to it..

Sheesh, man - look at yourself. You're a f***ing nightmare. You're at rock-bottom and here's a newsflash: nobody else is gonna pick you up from the hole you're in - you have to pick yourself up. How do you do that? Focus on the smallest of things. Left foot. Right foot. Walk down the hall. Work. Eat. Pee/poop. Sleep. Do it all over again. Don't try to date. Don't think about women at all. Just do your daily routine. Eventually, you'll lighten up enough to go out and do some things you enjoy. Shoot pool. Go bowling. Yes, by yourself if you have to.

And most of all, re-read the last post I sent to help you and this time actually do everything I told you to do. I've been there. I know what I'm talking about.

 

If you don't like the mom, you won't like the girl. Same Person. Get out now.

 

A couple of years ago my secretary at work left her husband who treated her right because he was "boring". The new "exciting" guy turned out to be a druggee and a monster. He wound up killing her, when she tried to divorce him. So extreme, it has no practical value, but I couldn't help think of this.

 

That happens more than you think, one of the worst things for a girl is to feel "bored" with her relationship/sex life. A bored woman is dangerous.

 

I don't agree with the "the mom is like the girl" theory. I have known girls who are remarkably different from their mothers.

 

Maybe not now, but you bet that by the time she is her age, they will be so similar it will be scary. You can bank on it!

Best advice given so far: want to know the girl you are dating? Get to know her mama.

 

Does the same thing apply to men and their dads?

 

If she does ignore or forgets you, then you are lucky - the girl who will hopelessly be in love with you is yet to come in your life - it is not she.

 

Well, if you want to talk about this girl, lets point out a few things that stand out:

1) She says you've changed. Maybe she's right. Of course you're going to change - especially when you're so young. Do you still eat baby food? Spend all day playing on the playground? No? Surprise! People change. The things you once liked will change. But the strong relationships recognize a deeper bond that occurs within your heart and sould, and this connection is what keeps relationships strong over the years. She obviously is clueless to this concept and will never have a lifelong relationship until she learns this.

2) Her stupid stunt of calling you up with that other guy and pretending to have sex just demonstrates how ridiculously childish she truly is. You must snap out of the trance that you are in and recognize that this is not what you want.

3) Her mother is only partially right. Marriage will cause a priority change, and her daughter will no longer place her mother first. When you are married you must put your spouse before your mother. Period. Your ex-gf's mom may learn this (the hard way) if her daughter ever gets married.

Put her behind you. Far behind you. Don't look back.

 

Droxford, you are a wise man. Listen to him!

 

It sounds like she has sme growing up to do, even at 23. I would break off your current relationship. I don't think it will work.

Perhaps you could try dating an older woman. They might appreciate your thoughtful ways.

 

Totally not applicable in my wife's case. I've been married 9 years + and I see my wife going just the opposite of her mom in several ways/areas of thought, etc.

Don't judge a book by the publisher.

Part of it too - a bigger part I believe is this - what the spouse or man in her life does to and for her shapes her into her own self. If the man in the daughter's life is exactly the same as her father, then yes, similarities will abound. But if the man in the daughter's life strives to experience new things, go new places, etc. with the daughter.. and broadens her life's experiences to far reachingly, more understanding, it's a bigger, more fantastical world-out-there, than your mom knew or realized... then the man.husband creates new memories for his spouse/woman and thus shapes her entirely in another avenue.

Of course some traits will be there that remind us (all of us) of our parents. But you'll find that if you see your significant other being EXACTLY like the parent you don't like... you're being EXACTLY like the parent's significant other... and the boredom thing may arise because of it.

Does that make any sense? I hope it does.

Shake things up. Don't just repeat the life of your parents based on childhood memories of where to go and what to do... create all together new memories. There's plenty out there to experience.

btw-by this age, my wife's mom had given up on a lot of things (had a career in IT), and is now on anti-depressants among other meds... and the question is, "why did she give up?" Her mom has always had a stable marriage, and went on to have 2 more children. My wife on the other hand is bettering herself everyday, learning more at work, getting new certifications/liscenses to sell insurance and investments as the kids get into school age pressing forward for the betterment of her family.... totally opposite. Out of the 3 daughters in her family, only 1 seems to take on much of her mom's nature. And the main reason I feel is that 2 of them have very supportive husbands, while one just let's his wife fall into the "traditional role" (vomit). So, my thoughts on the spouse's empowering of them vs. keeping them in a generational holding pattern... Encourager vs. Critic? Makes a difference. My wife's dad has the ultra-old-world idea that only the man should go out and provide for the family... while I say, "Honey, it's your choice to work outside or inside the home." My wife tried the stay-at-home approach and it drove her up a wall. So I supported her in returning to the work force, so to speak. But we communicate. I encourage her, or try to, in all she does. My wife's mom, I feel, did not communicate that she enjoyed working around adults more than staying home with the diapers and housework, and not only drove herself up a wall, but over the cliff of depression.

Long story short... BE YOURSELF! Nt what you expect her to like, based on what you know of other males in her life.

Why do think many women say they enjoy spontanaety? Why is this viewed as "romantic?" Becuase different and new is also exciting and interesting.

If yoiu started off the relationship being a goofball and then got all mundane and serious with her, that would kill it too.

The problem is not always with the girl.