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[Toronto Sun] Kevin Garnett deal to Pistons???

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Yaowaming, Aug 5, 2005.

  1. Yaowaming

    Yaowaming Contributing Member

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    http://torontosun.com/Sports/Columnists/Harris_Bill/2005/08/05/1160089.html

    Fri, August 5, 2005


    By Bill Harris



    We heard a crazy trade rumour the other day.

    And we mean crazy as in, "That probably never will happen," as opposed to, "That's an impossibility."

    According to an NBA source, the subject of a blockbuster deal involving Kevin Garnett, Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace has been broached between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons.

    The T-Wolves supposedly would send Garnett to the Pistons for the two Wallaces and two first-round picks.


    Sounds goofy, huh?

    There certainly is a chance a rumour like that got started merely because long-time Minnesota coach Flip Saunders now has taken over as coach of the Pistons.

    And while at face value it seems like way too much for the Pistons to give up, those two picks surely would come very late in the first round. So essentially it would boil down to a two-for-one deal, notwithstanding the chance of other players being thrown in to match salaries.

    Anyway, the purpose here is not to debate the merits of such a far-fetched transaction. But when we heard the rumour, it got us thinking:

    The Pistons, who a month and a half ago came within one game of winning their second championship in as many years, already have made some big changes this off-season (Saunders replacing Larry Brown), and at least are rumoured to be pondering some others. In fact, just about everyone in the Eastern Conference has made significant moves, and a good number of the teams are demonstrably better.

    Just about every team, arguably, except the Raptors.

    Now, the Raptors take enough gut punches from fans and media, so this is not meant to be another one. True, Raptors general manager Rob Babcock is dealing with some financial and roster incongruities that were of his own making, but he also inherited a grotesquely unattractive situation when he took over the reins less than a year and a half ago.

    So this isn't a blind-side swipe. It merely is a cold calculation of the prospects for a club that is coming off back-to-back 33-win seasons.

    So far this summer, the Raptors have lost Donyell Marshall, they surely are going to lose Milt Palacio, and they may be in the process of losing Matt Bonner.

    They have added two first-round picks in Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham, and an undrafted Spanish point guard in Jose Calderon. Second-round pick Roko Ukic signed with a European team, and Babcock said the other day that his other second-round pick, Uros Slokar, almost certainly will play in Europe next season, too.

    All things considered, that doesn't stack up particularly well when you ponder the rest of the East.

    From top to bottom, the teams that made the playoffs in the East last season were the Miami Heat, the Pistons, the Boston Celtics, the Chicago Bulls, the Washington Wizards, the Indiana Pacers, the Philadelphia 76ers and the New Jersey Nets. Some of those clubs may take a step back, but we don't feel we're going out on much of a limb by saying this: All eight of them still will be better than the Raptors next season.

    And what of the other non-playoff squads?

    The Cleveland Cavaliers, with LeBron James (not to mention Marshall and Larry Hughes), are sure to be better.

    The New York Knicks, with coach Brown on the job and a few more athletes in tow, likely will garner a few more wins.

    The Milwaukee Bucks, with No. 1 overall pick Andrew Bogut, should improve.

    The Orlando Magic, with an emerging Dwight Howard, won't be a pushover.

    And even the bottom-of-the-barrell teams -- the Atlanta Hawks and the Charlotte Bobcats -- really aren't that bad if you look at their noticeably athletic rosters.

    It's no great mystery where this leaves the Raptors.

    This isn't an alarmist tirade. And we understand the concept of taking a step back before taking a step forward.

    But unless Minnesota decides to trade Garnett to Toronto for nothing, how many games can the Raptors be expected to win next season?
     
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  2. Summer Song Giver

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    Garnett is the best player in the deal but why would Detroit do it? They are contendors now with this cast, won't happen.
     
  3. candlegreen

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    Doubtful if that ever happens..

    unless the Pistons organization is desperately trying to find ways to put Milicic in the rotation....
     
  4. roswell raygun

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    Bill Harris summed it up with this line: "There certainly is a chance a rumour like that got started merely because long-time Minnesota coach Flip Saunders now has taken over as coach of the Pistons."
    Still he got a whole column out of a silly trade rumor. Nice work.
     
  5. MLittle577

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    What's up with the West trying to become the East?
     
  6. RocketsPimp

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    Maybe the Lakers should make a run at KG. KG in tinseltown would have David Stern wetting his pants.
     
  7. KingCheetah

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    Surely Minn. would be more interested in Garnett for Yao...


    ;)
     
  8. reggietodd

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    yeah right, that would be sweet though
     
  9. smoothie

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    KG and tmac would mean a championship this year.
     
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    I doubt it. KG's game is too much perimeter oriented and we need a strong interior presence to win the whole thing.
     
  11. reggietodd

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    lmao!
     
  12. m_cable

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    Besides, we already got Swift in an effort to build around Yao. Trading him for KG would leave a big hole in the middle. How long have Minny been trying to find a decent center to pair with KG.

    I like our frontcourt as it is. A couple tweaks in the backcourt is all that stands between us and a championship.
     
  13. swilkins

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    I saw it the opposite.
     
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    I would do this trade easily. But, there's too much money involved in Yao. He's the Rocket's cash cow. Think about how Yao wins the all star ballot over Shaq last year. There are millions of Chinese (and non-Chinese) fans who love Yao... who are wearing Rocket's product because he's here. Advertisement money: Coincidence that the arena naming rights was bought by Toyota? that the Rocket's logo looks like Chinese characters. There is no way we would trade Yao even for Duncan, Parker, and Manu. Too much money.
     
  15. tigermission1

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    Kevin Garnett is a wonderful talent, but will never win a championship, and any team he's traded to would likely never win it either.

    The two Wallaces are better IMO than KG, I would rather have a front line that has both Offense and Defensive presence by having the 2 Wallaces, while taking KG would mean a one-man interior presence.

    IMO, Rasheed and Ben are collectively more valuable than KG alone.
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    Duncan, Parker, Manu, and Tmac in one team.. So you're saying the Rox mgmt would rather stick to Yao? its just not about the money.. its about upgrading.. its about winning a championship...
     
  17. hoopstar

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    If we can some how get eva longaria to come to houston so that i can have my shot with her, this deal would be worth giving up yao...duncan and manu would jus be throw-ins...
     
  18. lytruc

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    I call shotgun.
     
  19. MadMax

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    why do you think that? i think if you put the right pieces around garnett...just like with hakeem...you can win a title or two.
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    kg will have his shot when he's traded to the lakers after this season.
     

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