Cincinatti Riots: Protect [some] and serve [others]

Police Officers go to work every day, and risk their lives to help law-abiding citizens for aroung 40,000 dollars a year. The vast majority of police officers are intelligent, dedicated professionals.

Ignorance in our society is exhibited in many ways. People who characterize all police officers as racists, are every bit as evil and ignorant as KKK members.



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hpdman,

Every police officer that joins the force knows the dangers, knows that pay, knows the baggage that comes with the job. No one springs it on them 5 years down the road.

A cop shooting and killing an unarmed person is just like a priest who molests children. Each job comes with certain expectations, and not living up to those expectations brings harsh criticism.

From my experiences 'vast majority' is an overstatement. But, I agree most officers are good intelligent people. It's just that they occupy a position that requires the utmost out of them, and they chose that, no one forced them into it.

I don't think Rocket River, or anyone for that matter thinks all police officers are racists, but there is a problem out there. Racial profiling, the shooting of unarmed men, and the simple facts point to it being related to race.

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[This message has been edited by DREAMer (edited April 12, 2001).]

 

Did the cop know he was unarmed? I really, really doubt it.
Anytime a police officer is pursuing someone with 14 warrnats (or was it 14 prior arrests) they know they aren't chasing a bad kid. They knew they was chasing a criminal who didn't want to get caught.
Imagine yourself in that situation of pursuing someone who doesn't wna to get caught. Now imagine them making a move towards something which COULD be a gun. Do you wait until a shot is fired and potentially you or one of your fellow officers or an innocent citizen is hurt or killed? I know in that situation it is a judgement call but when a crook reaches for something which COULD be a gun, I know I would be more than ready to pull my trigger.

The guy wasn't a good guy. He had 14 prior warrents (or arrests) and was running from the cops. Con;t make it sound like he was a good kig murdered by a cop. He wasn't.

 

14 warrants on misdemeanors and traffic violations does not mean you deserved to be murdered.

Please.

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Actually, I think the cop said that he didn't shoot the kid because he thought he was going for a gun, he shot him because he was black.

What proof is there that he shot him because he was black? So a black cop chasing a kid he thought was pulling a gun on him wouldn't react the same way? None of that matters though, what the hell, let's just start pulling innocent people out of their cars and beating the crap out of them anyway.

What do you say to a young kid watching this on television that asks why these people are destroying other people's property and beating people up for no reason? Intelligent people who are racially-tolerant like us on this board may be able to reason this out, but the vast majority of Americans cannot. It makes me mad because I know people who take stuff like this and just let it feed their racist-leaning tendencies--now I've got to listen to it.

 

Rocketman & Rocket River-
Nope I never said he deserved to be murdered. He was shot because:
A. He was a criminal (see 14 warrants)
B. He was running from the cops
If you are dumb enough to run from the law you get whatever you deserve. Like the saying goes if you mess with the bull, you sometime get the horns.
Admit it the kid was stupid. Does he deserve to die, I never said that nor does anyone else. But I am glad a guy with 14 outstanding warrants is off the streets. But I'm not glad he is dead.
Again I don't know the circumstances but if I was in a situation with someoen like like and I thought he was going for a gun, you're dang right I've got the scope to my eye, safety off and a finger on the trigger. It's unfortunate he didn't listen to the officers but he knew what could have happened and he chose to run.

 

kind of ironic you folks grandstanding around in this thread about racial intolerance, racial profiling, and stereotyping yet you over and over refer to Police Officers as KKKops. Would it be fair for me to call the people in Cincinnati Ni##ers because there are blacks rioting?

Hypocrites.

You folks are as much a part of the problem as the few bad COPS and equally bigoted.


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Well I see black people getting arrested on TV the time, my car was stolen by two black teens and I had a friend in college raped by a black person. Guess it is fair for me to refer to blacks as ni##ers since they have done so many bad things to me.

That is exactly what you are doing, stereotyping ALL cops as racists(kkkops), simply because you know of a couple incidences in which a FEW police officers acted immorally.

You generalizing my uncle (who was a police officer) as racist is just as someone basing their dislike of another race simply because the see blacks getting busted on TV or because of a couple life experiences. You are no different then those simple minded redneck KKK people you despise.

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[This message has been edited by Ty_Webb (edited April 12, 2001).]

 

Reading in the story - Athletic shoe stores were especially targeted by the looters.

It's not about the cause.

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Remember Reginald Denny?

Pulled out of his truck by Rodney King Verdict Protesters, beat and suffered permanent damage. They even caught the bastards on video tape and, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, the perpetrators walked away without punishment.

King didn't suffer like Denny did. In fact, King was guilty of something. Where was the sympathy for Denny amidst all the self-serving indignation? Oh, and where was Jesse Jackson.

Rodney King probably got more than he deserved but even moreso did Reginald Denny.

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Racial profiling is a tough question. It can be abused but it is also fundamental and instrumental in catching crooks. It is part of a description.

Stopping people because of their race, in suspicion of their criminal nature, is a travesty unless some aspect of their behavior warrants it.

I'm just glad I'm not a red-headed criminal!
They must be easy to catch.

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That is the point RR, not ALL, heck not many Police Officers hate. It is unfortunate your experience with them has been so bad. But basing your opinion on groups of people based on the actions of a few, is a dangerous thing.

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No, people with 14 warrants are criminals. People who flee from the police are criminals. If I were told to stop by a police officer, I would stop. Why? Because I do not want them to shoot me? NO. It is because it is against the law to flee from the police. So yes, if you are running from the "kkkops" then you are automatically a criminal. As I said in my earlier post, the officer was wrong for killing the boy. However, the boy certainly contributed to his own demise by running from the cops.

Again, it is wrong for policemen to shoot at someone. This is another case where you can easily see that running from the police was a stupid thing to do (not to mention riding around with criminals when you are on probation). Does anyone really think that the majority of these killings could not be prevented simply by cooperating with the police officers. I have rarely heard of someone who was killed while standing with his hands above his head, especially if they have not commited a crime.



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