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Suggestion for a SG

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Drexlerfan22, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. Drexlerfan22

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    Maurice Evans.

    Yes, I was the first to say the Kings aren't letting him go, as I live in Sactown. He was set to start... and then the Bonzi trade happened. Now the Kings have Bonzi starting and Kevin Martin (who's turning into a real player) backing him up, not to mention they just drafted Francisco Garcia. While he would've been a starter before, in all likelihood he won't even be re-signed now.

    He's not a great 3-point shooter, obviously... 33%. But let me tell you... he's got everything else. He's young (26), he can hit the J, and he has straight-up absurd athleticism. He can throw down dunks with anybody, he's a pretty good defender, and he's a GREAT rebounder at his size. I can't remember the last time I saw a guard that active around the boards. Handles aren't fabulous, but good enough certainly.

    If we traded for Stoudamire (and thus didn't use our LLE), I would definitely consider pitching it at Evans, Finley, or Buckner.
     
  2. dharocks

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    Isn't he restricted? I think the Kings would match a LLE offer, and then just find a way to move Kevin Martin, who's practically the same player as Francisco Garcia.
     
  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I like Mo Evans from the times I watched him last year with the Kings. Very atheltic. Would be a solid 2/3 with some good growth potential.

    But I dont think the LLE is going to get it done. Word is the Spurs, Sonics and Pistons are all looking at him. My guess is he gets a deal starting at around 4M a year.

    And Mo is a RFA, so chances are a team is going to have to overpay for the Kings not to match the offer. With that said, the Kings have Wells, Martin and Garcia at the 2/3 already as well as Peja. So where does Evans fit in there?
     
  4. Jacquescas

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    would he be worth a S&T sending Wesley and a first rounder?
     
  5. New Jack

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    Mike James for Maurice Evans? :)

    They do need a replacement for Bobby Jackson.
     
  6. KingCheetah

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    Suggestion for a SG
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    Michael Finley ;)
     
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    Wesley and a first rounder? No way.
     
  8. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Interesting idea actually. If the Rockets could get DS then I would certainly entertain moving Mike James for a S&T Mo Evans. It would make sense for both teams.
     
  9. NIKEstrad

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    Hold your horses.

    I bleed burnt orange, but Mo Evans is a decent roleplayer coming off a 6-3 season. You would hope Evans can give you anything close to the production James does. How much are you thinking about paying the guy? To make a sign and trade with James work, you'd have to offer him within 25% of James' salary - around 2.75 mill or so at the minimum. You can probably bring back JB for a little more than half of that- I'd rather have JB anyway.

    We've added Swift and Head. That's some serious athleticism infusion. in both the front and backcourt. We could use a little more athleticism (maybe Glover?), but James is a pretty real piece. You don't hand him away for a backup swingman.

    However, if you want Evans, this is where one of those small trade exceptions could come in handy. Give him a little over a mill, and send Sacramento a 2nd rounder or two in a sign and trade.
     
  10. jump shooter

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    Totally agree with you Nikestrad, Mike James is way to valuable to give up for a young athlete like Evans. I would have a very difficult time unloading Mike James unless we got something that could come close to throwing us over the top. I think he is going to have a very good year for the rockets this upcoming season.
     
  11. xiki

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    Give me DS and Sac can have MJ. Evans is ok, but DS would be good, solid depth.
     
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    Our history with Project Maurice was bad enough that I hope we never try another one.
     
  13. Drexlerfan22

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    I kinda doubt Sacramento would match anything for him at this point.

    And I also believe they WOULD listen to offers like a 1st + expiring contracts or straight up for Mike James, as you guys have been suggesting.
     
  14. Da Wink

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    Let's wait for a while and look for the SG's to be released: Finley, Anderson, Christie... Our frontline is already set. Our remaining needs are the starting PG,SG and tmac's backup...
     
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    Actually I like Glover not necessarily because he is everything we he but he definitely has the offense and average anbout a steal a game on D shoot a decent overall percentage for us I think he can do about 38-39%. Also he can be had for cheap and without giving anything up. We do have too many gfuards but we need to wait for the right trade or wait until next season and let them come off the books.
     
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    38-39% from three point land and shoot in the upper fourties overall, I like his decision making. Maybe a little aggressive offensively but I think that is where coaching comes in.
     
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    I like TMac to play shooting guard on offense and Darius Miles to play shooting guard on defense.
     
  18. Hakeem06

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    darius miles is NEVER going to do anything is this league. he has great athleticism and can dunk. tha't it folks. the whole 9 ppg and 5 rpg is what you are going to get out of him forever. his game hasn't progressed any over the last couple of seasons and they guy is a head case.

    darius=waste of time and talent
     
  19. Hakeem06

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    i almost forgot about mo evans. i like evans and how much his game has come along since he left Texas way too early. anyway, now he's a great player to have come off the bench to spell the starting 2 or 3. i would love to have another young, talented, and great athlete in the backcourt.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. The problems in Portland stem from horrible management that let the inmates run the asylum. Miles needs to be surrounded by strength and direction. He ain't no worse than the rest of the putz millionaire dollar spoiled brat babies running around this league. He was in a bad situation, surrounded by horrible management, and a cluster of bad apples. Remember Rashweed!!!!!!!! If Miles ever makes it to a winning environment where he has a strong coach who requires a higher standard from him, and the coach has the backing of the rest of the players and the front office, I am confident that his career could be rejuvenated and he can become very productive. I don't care if he's not an offensive machine. We don't need any offense from him. (By the way, he does have offensive skills, no matter what you say. Just watch him post up smaller SFs, which most of the SFs are smaller than he is. Or the bigger SFs, such as Vlad Rad, he can go right around them.) What we need from Darius is defense, rebounding, and running the break. An occasional jumper as the 5th option on offense???? Who better to give that shot to, as your 5th option on offense than Darius??? Greg Buckner??? No way. Miles is an athlete plain and simple who can move and cover the court like a big praying mantis that has drank a quart of Red Bull. He would be an excellent rotational player who we could put on the floor for 30 mpg and he would represent an upgrade to what we already have.

    San Antonio's lineup

    Duncan-all everything inside-defense, boards, offense
    Nazr-defense and boards
    Bowen-defense and 3 point shooting
    Manu-good D, great penetrator, great shooter
    Parker-below average D, great penetrator, average mid range shooter, no 3 point shooter

    Bench:
    Barry-no defense, good offensive skills, great shooter
    D. Brown-Good defense, average offensive skill set
    rest are junk

    Houston's lineup with S&T for DS and DM
    Yao-interior offense, defensive intimidator, average rebounder, a notch below Duncan
    Swift-excellent shot blocker, weak side defender, and will board just as good as Nazr, better offensive reportoire and more athletic than Nazr-an obvious notch or two above Nazr
    TMac-all everything, great defender, great shooter, great penetrator, great decision maker-the equivalent of Duncan from the perimeter, better 3 point shooter than Bowen or Manu, just as effective defensively as Bowen

    Miles-Better defender than Manu, good mid range game,

    Stoudamire-Great penetrator, Great shooter, below average defender-a notch above Parker offensively, about on the same level as Parker defensively, both are their team's weak links defensively

    Bench:
    Deke-SA can't touch this
    Howard-compared to Rasho??? or who else on SA????
    Sura/James-whichever one is here obviously is a notch above Beno-Beno was a TO machine in the playoffs
    Head-indeterminate at this stage
    Barry-cancels out his brother and then some with the energy and chemistry he gives us


    With DS and Dmiles, we win the matchups with Spurs, Mavs, and Suns. Get Miles and Stoudamire. Van Gundy can keep them in line. And we'll get another shooter if we need one off the bench.


    Stoudamire
    TMac
    Miles
    Yao
    Swift

    with

    Head
    Sura/Glover
    Barry
    Deke
    Howard/Baxter

    behind them

    and we may even get lucky and sign somebody like Finley for league minimum. If we did, that would be fine too. Miles would still be an excellent player even if he wasn't starting. He'd see quality minutes on the floor under Van Gundy. That would be one ramped up defense and they would be devastating on the break. In the half court, you run TMac, Yao, and Stoudamire all day long with Swift and Miles taking out the garbage.
     

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