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Does Swift become 3rd Scoring option?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tycoonchip, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Member

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    With Swift now on board and McGrady stating that he wants to make him an All Star, does he now become our 3rd scoring option. With that in mind, how effective would Swift be as the third scoring option? He definitely looks like a banger in the middle that would grab rebounds and help Yao out from getting into foul trouble but I don't know how he would do and what his job would be on the offensive end. I think he is looking to really boost his scoring numbers now that he will be getting more minutes. But do we really need that with Yao already scoring in the post and Mcgrady penetrating inside a majority of the time. I also suspect that we are looking to get a guard that will hit open 3's and midrange jumpers that will most likely also want the ball as well everytime the lanes are too clogged for Yao or Mc Grady. Wouldn't that guard be a more effective option as the third option than Swift in the middle. I don't know how effect Swift is shooting from 15ft but I haven't heard much about it. I am glad we picked him up but I am just wondering now how we are going to utilize him on the offensive end.
     
  2. dafatha00

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    I say it depends on who we sign as point guard. If we get Stoudamire, it is a possiblity that he could become our third option as he has a very good offensive game.
     
  3. apostolic3

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    I doubt Swift will get many plays called for him. If he hustles and plays hard, he will have opportunities on fast breaks, alley oops and putbacks. Even if we get DS, it's conceivable Swift could be our 3rd leading scorer, but if you mean who will be 3rd on the totem pole in our 1/2 court offense, it probably won't be Swift. Shawn Marion has shown how much a player can suceed without being a focal point in an offense.
     
  4. Relativist

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    I'd rather Swift not be our third scoring option unless his mid-range jumper is as good as Howard's. I'd like Swift to do what Cato did, cut to the basket for alley-oops, clean up the offensive glass, but also drive when there's a clear lane and stick the open jumper. My ideal third scoring option would be a lights-out perimeter shooter like Barry.
     
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    I don't know about 3rd option, but he will get some easy buckets off put back and fast breaks. He'll be our garbage man.
     
  6. xomox

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    i think he will be the 3rd option. he will get a lot more looks than he did with memphis. if any of those 3 is double-teamed it will be to the detriment of the opponent. mcgrady will now have two options to pass off to when he drives. i wouldnt want to be a fan of an opposing team next season.
     
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    He's probably the third scoring option by default, but as it stands now, we still only have two scorers. We really need to add another.
     
  8. rvpals

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    Swift could potentially be the third scorer because there are tons of opportunities for him to score now that he got Yao & TMac, both creates a lot of double teams which always free up PF (like Juwan hitting all these open mid range jumpers), with an athletic PF, Yao could also get some really good assist by passing to Swift in the opposite side of low post, like he did when he was playing with Cato, Cato got dunks inside a lot of times. Not to mention that with TMac and everybody running the break, he could be a great trailer. We don't need to call a lot of plays for Swift and he still could score a lot more than he does right now.
     
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    I think after TMac and Yao, there really is no 3rd scoring option. Those 2 guys deserve double-teams. The third scoring option should be whoever's open or hot. I don't think there's any need to get too bogged down with roles and such. We have TMac and Yao - we should just take whatever the defense gives us - especially if the other 3 guys can hit an open shot. From what I've heard - Swift should be able to do that.
     
  10. MartianMan

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    Hopefully, Swift = Shawn Marion for the Rox. He should be doing all the little stuff that helps on defense and offense such as putbacks, rebounds, blocks, boxing out, weakside help, etc. Frankly, he has all the athleticism needed. He can shine now on the Rox team. I hope he realizes it and puts forth his best effort.
     
  11. glynch

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    To me the "third scoring option" is a guy who coud generate offfense himself if Yao and Tracy are both out or just having unbelievable off nights. I think Mike James fits that role, Swift does not at this point. He is going to rely largely on Yao and React and hopefully a point guard to generate his offense.

    It is very posible that Swift could be the third leding scorer if he gets big minutes.
     
  12. GATER

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    We didn't obtain Swift to be the 3rd scoring option. We obtained him to block shots, play tough team D, rebound, look for Aley Oops when they are there and to tighten up our transition game.

    There surely will be a player on the team who scores the next most points after TMac and Yao, but they are not a scoring "option". They are getting their points working off of how the opponents defend McGrady and Yao. And it'll vary from game to game depending on matchups.
     
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    That's exactly how I feel. "3rd scoring option" and "3rd leading scorer" isn't the same in my book. I think Swift will probably be the 3rd leading scorer based on T-mac and Yao creating easy buckets for him, and getting putbacks and such. But a scoring option is more of a guy that can create for himself, which is something Swift isn't really able to do.
     
  14. New Jack

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    Swift has put up very nice offensive numbers (around 18ppg) the past couple of seasons when inserted into the starting lineup or given significant playing time (+30 mins). So I could definitely see him developing into a good 3rd option. In those games in which Gasol were out due to injury, Swift basically became the 1st or 2nd scoring option on the floor.

    I actually think at this stage in his career, his offensive game is more polished than his rebounding or defense. I don’t think there are too many big men out there that Swift can’t blow past using his quickness and athleticism.
     
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    If he is our third option that is a big drop off from the 1st & 2nd option. But its not like it matters who our third option is after looking at who our 1st & 2nd options are :)
     
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    David + Juwan Howard + Moochie Norris for Steve Francis
    Someone work this trade out
     
  17. hooroo

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    i'd rather a sura+james+wesley+jho+no.1 pick for kirk hinrich+antonio davis
     
  18. Kim

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    If Yao and T-Mac are incredibly off, I think going to Swift is a good option.

    Stromile had games 9 games last year where he attempted at least 8 free throws.

    Yao Ming has 26 games.
    Tracy McGrady had 34 games.
    Juwon Howard had 0.
    Mike James had 1
    Bob Sura had 7

    I think if the scoring get tough, on this current team, there's T-Mac and Yao, and Mike James (if T-Mac and Yao aren't hitting), and Bob Sura driving to the hoop every now and then (he can do that you know), and now the Rocks have Stromile Swift, who can face up most 4's and drive to the hole and score or draw a foul. I think his rebounding is what needs improvement. He can score fine on his own, and should be much better with the Rockets' great passing offense. (I'm not kidding, the Rockets passed great last year, and lost to a Dallas team that took way tougher shots and won on talent and down the stretch execution).
     
  19. Deuce

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    I agree. Swift is more of a 'garbage man' type player. He will get putbacks and will get lobs. But I dont see him as the "3rd scoring option" on this team. He may very well be the 3rd leading scorer, but he wont be the option.

    The options are Tmac and Yao. And the 3rd option is anyone else that is left open from the double teams.
     

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