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Sometimes subtle moves are the best

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. leebigez

    leebigez Member

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    I'm guessing today or this week is suppose to be "the week" that the Rox find out if they get Swift or not. I make no bones about it that I think SAR is the best option for the Rox, but it seems like he's not on their radar for some reason. Many people on this board think Van Gundy can get the best out of swift, whatever that is and the Rox are on their way. Just like last yr when the Rox didn't have alot of money, they made little moves that paid huge dividends. Getting James,Barry,Sura,Wesley for basically nothing and they really help our team. With the base being Ming and McGrady the Rox are looking for guys who will buy into the system that can play well with these two. I know everyone wants this Horace Grant type of player at the 4 or this bigger deadeye from 3 pt line, but this teams real success relies on #11. When Ming plays dominant like he should every night, the Rox are a championship quality team with the roster they have,period. When ming plays inconsistent, then the rox have some trouble unless McGrady bails them out. If Ming plays like he did against Mavs in those playoff victories, would we be talking about a shotblocking 4 man. If Howard was healthy and the Mavs couldn't go really small, would we be so enamored with a underacheiver like swift? If Ming dominated Dirk when they played him, would we even be having this discussion? So no matter who is added unless its Brand or someone like, this team will only be a true contender when Ming plays consistent dominate basketball for 35 mins every night.

    Back to the subtle moves out there, there are plaenty of guys who played pretty good last yr that went under the radar screen that many people without the package didn't get to see.

    Pauchulia-Mil. I seen the guy play a few times and he actually played pretty well in his limited minutes. He's 21, 6'11 and about 245 and playes with great energy. He plays very tough, not only for a euro, but tough altogether. I mean he played in 19mins and grabbed as many rebounds as Swift did and shot higher fg%.

    Gerald Wallace- He's the super athelete. He goes to the basket hard and strong. He's 22 and did show improvement once given the time. He's a good rebounder,shotblocker and steal guy for a swingman. He gets to the ft line 6 times a game. One of the biggest knocks against the Rox is that they were a mostly stand still jump shooting team and got to the ft line the least of playoff teams. People will say he cant shoot the 3, but dont the rox already have enough of those stand still guys? Plus they can have the consumate guy like Barry behind him anyway.

    Those are 2 guys in particular that I've kinda kept a eye on. Both are restricted, but it wouldn't take much to get them. i really like wallace, because i think the Rox need that super athelete on the wing who goes to the rack and gets to the ft line. If anything showed in the playoffs is that howard,daniels and stack did damage because Wesley is too small and barry wasn't quick enough, but that was all because McGrady had to guard dirk. Even a guy like McCarty could help this team especially playing against the Dirks and garnetts of the world. With that said, it still comes down to #11.
     
  2. Jacquescas

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    i think both those guys would be good additions. Wallace is more of a 3 than a 2 to me though. I also like former #2 overall pick from 2002 Jay Williams. He would be the best pure point guard we have.

    If we dont resign Barry i wouldn't mind bringing in Korver.
     
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    I thought TMac's had enough of ZaZa? What's Mac gota say?
     
  4. stevel

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    I have seen SARs name tied to the Rockets a couple of times in the past few days. Maybe it is just a ploy to get NJ and Portland to do something but there are rumblings out there.
     
  5. Jacquescas

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    its a coming flurry. One player or team is going to blink and give in and the market will be set. Either the rest of the teams or players will scramble and there will be a flurry of signings because its like musical chairs and no one wants to be left alone. Although this year is different because everyone knows there will be some vetrans cut late (kinda like the old june 1st cuts in the NFL) Can teaMS keep enough cap room to sign these players?
     
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    He was a 19 yrs old rookie from another country.
     
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    I think Korver will command a hell of a lot more than we can give him. Unless we don't get anyone with the MLE
     
  8. Jacquescas

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    I think Korver will command around 3-4 million a year contract. so part but not all of the MLE. I'd love to see him on a contender. He would be nice rotation guy.
     
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    Gerald Wallace is a name not many will mention that seems to be kind of under the radar. He's a super athlete, basically the Stromile Swift version of a swingman.

    He's young & very underrated, if all other more appealing options fall through to upgrade at PF---i'm all for signing him.
     
  10. leebigez

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    I also think that guys like Harrignton,Gooden and Desmond Mason are availible. Mason is 27 and goes to the line like 6 times a game and gooden for all his craziness was like 14 and 10 last yr. I think both can be had with the combo of expiring contracts and picks. Mason makes 7 and some change for 2 yrs and gooden makes almost 5. Both ar young and atheletic that the Rox are looking at. I still like wallace. he avg as many blks as Swift did from the 2/3 spot. His ft% could be higher, but he gets to the rack.
     
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    The supposed problem with Gooden is that he has lapses on D. He will supposedly flat out miss assignments. I don't think this will fly with JVG. He is a nice scorer and rebounder though.
     
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    Now everyone thinks JVG is a very good coach and teacher. Since we assume that he will get the best out of Swift, why cant we think the same about Gooden. At least Gooden has been more consistent in his career than Swift.
     
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    i guess i missed it...what happend bw tmac and zaza?
     
  14. Jacquescas

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    want a subtle move how about Travis Hansen. He has played well in europe, is tall and athletic enough to play the 2. can hit the 3 and is a good defender. According to ESPN we have been in contact with him. He could be a good compliment to Stoudamire in the backcourt (i'm an opptimist.)
     
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    Well, you certainly called it.

    I've only recently heard of Hansen. He does sound like exactly what we need at the 2/3. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    BTW, welcome to the board. :)
     
  16. Jacquescas

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    thanks, its a good board. So many new viewpoints to read. It looks like players blinked first and everyone went mid level.

    If Hansen is athletic and can hit the 3 I'd be willing to give him the LLE. Van Gundy and the cast of players would elevate his game. I wont judge him on 41 games played in atlanta.
     

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