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A possible way to get Cat?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by qzf2qk, Jul 10, 2005.

  1. qzf2qk

    qzf2qk Member

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    If Sacramento really wants to get Walker can we possibly help them and get Cat out of the deal? I know the board seems to be split on getting Cat back but he may be the best SG still available.

    Boston signs Walker starting a 6M and trades to Sacremento
    Sacramento signs Cat starting at 6M and trades to Houston
    Houston sends either Wesley or Weatherspoon to Boston

    Sacramento gets Walker without giving up anything. Houston gets Cat for an expiring contract and Boston gets an expiring contract. Then we can still have the MLE for Swift if he wants it. There may be some bad contracts that would need to be included or picks.

    Sacramento - Kenny Thomas
    Boston - Mark Blount
     
  2. askball

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    It's a solid trade proposal but i mean Sacramento has to give up something to get Walker
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    Umm... problem.

    Why does Boston take on an expiring contract for Walker if they can have the cap space now by simply not signing him?

    The fact remains we'd need to give up a worth-it player in return for this to work, which would likely mean Mike James + an expiring contract.
     
  4. rodrick_98

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    no way boston goes for that deal, danny ainge runs the show out there not isiah. they'll want more than spoon or wesley.
     
  5. CriscoKidd

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    Some tweaks need to be thrown in (picks or diff filler players), but I think it's a solid idea if Houston and Cat mutually desired each other(hawtness).
     
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    http://www.***********.com/mobley-interview-120404.shtml
     
  7. qzf2qk

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    If Sacramento wants a sign/trade, Boston has to take something.
     
  8. Drexlerfan22

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    You're Boston. Would you rather have Mobley or Wesley/Spoon? What's in it for you to include the Rockets in this deal?

    And besides, like I already said, if Boston simply wants cap space, they just don't sign Walker. Simple. There is nothing that obligates Boston to do a SnT just because Sacramento and Walker say they want one, which seems to be what you're implying.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    It would make more sense if we sent a pick Boston's way, which is not unreasonable for a player of Cat's caliber. Boston could not get Mobley unless he agreed to go to Boston, and I think the implication of the proposal was that Cat wanted to come here and Walker wanted to go to Sacto.
     
  10. gucci888

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    First, I'm pretty sure AW and Cat will be looking for bigger contracts than 6M a year. Second, Cat would have to want to come back, which would probably be the biggest factor.
     
  11. Desert Scar

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    If we want Cat, why not Wesley and 1st? Wesley has the all around game and mentality to help the Kings for a year while they evaluate and teach their young SGs (Martin, Evans, Garcia). Then Wesley's contract expires and they get a #1 from us. That sounds a lot better than losing Mobley for nothing.
     
  12. Drexlerfan22

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    If it was another team, maybe yeah. The problem is they're in luxury tax territory. Wesley's salary is $5 million? Make that $10 million. Would you pay $10 million for an aging guard to take away minutes from your young players, and get only a late, late 1st-rounder in return? Heck, those late 1st-round guaranteed contracts can be more hurt than help as it is. Personally, if I were them, I'd rather lose Mobley for nothing than do that.

    Of course, that's not to say they won't try to SnT Cat for a player of real value, like Nene or Walker.
     
  13. ACL1

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    I just don't see the Rockets wanting Catino backk ( and i am happy for that). i thin k as a general policy the rockes don't bring previous players back, they did not do it with OT after he became a free agaent and they had a chance instead they brought Mark bryant, they did not do t with Robert Horry, they were both members of the championship teams and excellent role players. they certainely are not gonna do it with a guard who loved dribbling, did not like passing, and called the current coach a dictator.
    that is just my opinion.
     
  14. swilkins

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    Cat didn't like the system then and wouldn't like it now. Plain and simple.
     
  15. Desert Scar

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    But if they lose Cat for nothing and don't bring in a vet SG they have a big risk of not making the playoffs, or at a minimum being viewed as not really trying to compete. That could really alienate fans who felt last year as a 6th seed was a down year.

    Now if DW's 4.9 salary would really cost them double in the new CBA, yes that is a steep price. But if they are looking for a vet stop gap with an expiring contract plus future compensation (NY 2nd or Hou 1st) with they evaluate their young SGs, it makes sense. Further, with the new CBA late 1sts and early 2nds are much more favorable than before. 1st rounders now have shorter contracts with more team options, and 2nd rounders have some protection if the player blows up and happens to be a star. It leads to a greater chance of getting a real bargain, and most lower chance of getting a bad long term contract.

    Again I don't know the Sac situation with the new CBA and lux tax, but getting a very functional and durable vet like DW to sign a 1 year deal would not be easy, plus they get an extra pick. I think I'd take it over losing Cat for nothing.

    Finally Cat had a great year with JVG, he was one of the previous Rockets to most adapt and play the best. Cat Mobley would be a Rocket if it wasn't for the small fact that Orlando wanted him as part of a deal for TRACY MCGRADY. So that other nonsense should stop.
     
  16. H Perry

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    The Rockets need an aggressive Power forward not mobley. Sure it would be nice to have mobley but if the rockets have a choice or an aggressive power forward or mobley I would like to think mobley is on the waiting list.
     
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    So basically is the story Mobley hated the system because it brought out the best in him?

    I sure hope that's not the case, he probably just didn't like the halfcourt offense JVG likes to run. Whatever the case may be, I would welcome him back with open arms for the right price. For that good of a defender and shooter in MLE territory, you really can't go wrong just so long as we address the PF position first.
     
  18. Drexlerfan22

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    Maurice Evans started 11 games for them last year and played very, very well. He has all-around game. Trust me when I say they have no problem starting him. They also have Kevin Martin, whom they like, and they're hoping Bobby Jackson can come back from injury and get some time at 2 like he used to. Plus, they just drafted Francisco Garcia. They get DW and they've got about 5 guys who have gotten time previously sharing one SG spot.

    Oh, and as a side note, I do live in Sacramento, and no one has delusions of them being a title contender anymore. No one is going to be alienated if we get younger. We'll be happy.
     

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