So what is your opinion on the death penalty?

ima_drummer2k · Jun 28, 2005

If it helps the loved ones of murder victims sleep at night, then I'm for it. If not, then I'm against it. They are the ones whose opinion(s) should hold the most weight.

FranchiseBlade · Jun 28, 2005

halfbreed said:

OK. I'm sick and tired of this quote. It makes absolutely no sense. I get the purpose of it ... 2 eyes and all. But an eye for an eye simly leaves each of us with one eye, not blind. That's just always gotten on my nerves.
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People can take someone's eye more than once. An eye for an eye ongoing would eventually grab both eyes. So the quote does make sense as long as it carried out in full.

rhester · Jun 29, 2005

Grizzled said:

I’m not sure I’m understanding your position here rhester. As far as Christians go I think John 8 is close to the definitive statement on the death penalty. "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone…” WWJD? This is what Jesus did.

But of course men can’t carry out justice, no more than they can live a just (sinless) life themselves. In fact it is the very purpose of the law to show us this, and it is for this very reason that as Christians we must live by the new covenant. I don’t see any way to square the death penalty with Christian beliefs, and I can think of no NT passages that support it.

But again, since men are inherently flawed they can never truly carry out justice. And let’s not forget what God ultimately wants from us.

Hosea 6:6
6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.

This passage is so important that it’s referenced in the NT two more times.

Let’s be very careful to be clear here. While this is true from God’s perspective it is in fact true for every human being on earth. “There is no one righteous, not even one…” (Romans 3). From our perspective we are commanded in no uncertain terms to show mercy to sinners. This is absolutely central to Christian faith, of course!

1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance? (Romans 2)

I have some real problems with the rest of what you’ve said too but I trust that I’m simply misunderstanding what you’re saying, so maybe this part will clear that up.
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Rest assured it is a misunderstanding.
I understand mercy and the New Covenant.

No Worries · Jun 29, 2005

it may be a better punishment to incarcerate for life.

Maybe we should let this be an election for the people who have a life without parole sentence?

Rocket River · Jun 29, 2005

bnb said:

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind -- Gandhi.
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. . .also the Quote MOST QUOTED by the person that took the 1st eye

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