Correction---meant to say this is probably DRob's last contract, not his last YEAR. Also there seems to be alot of confusion/debate here in SA about whether the Spurs will have 16 or 22ish million to spend(new cap)and whether DRob and DA have to fit in under the 16 or under the 22. Can anyone clear that up or muddy it up? ------------------
With $16 MIL, and Robinson wanting at least $7.5 MIL a year, the Spurs could be in deep deep trouble. They have gaping holes at SF and PG to fill (Antonio is not a true PG and Terry Porter is 40 years old), and DA wants at least $7 MIL a year. Robinson and DA could easily eat all of the Spurs available cap space. Hell, they may have to choose between the 2 when you look at their holes at PG and SF. Not looking good for Spurs fans at all. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
It's funny how everyone on the board derides the Spurs for "rolling over" against LA, when Sacramento won exactly 2 less games than the Spurs (56), and received the same treatment from the Lakers (sweep), yet everyone on the board would give their left nut for Webber. If Duncan wanted to play for the Rockets, it would be the same situation. And if the Spurs were so conservative, why would they trade Sean Elliot, a major "character" guy, for DENNIS RODMAN? And why would they TANK to have a shot at Duncan? REAL conservative moves there. Oh, but I'm sure you'll come up with an excuse for why those moves fit into your little anti-Spur existence, so why should I bother?
At least the Kings were competitive in the four losses. The Spurs lost by a record average of 22 points! ------------------ Protrolls.com! "I want to be like Olajon." -Sagana Diop has the right idea... Keep the ???? alive!
You know FREAK you are a work of art like some of the others on this thread...You want everyone to SEE your point and you WON'T even acknowledge others views. Once again throughout this thread i have repeatedly said things that were both sound and CRAZY, but i will always speak the truth. People on here are STILL stuck on me saying that the Spurs will be a lottery team next year!! I have even said (if you read it) that really i don't see the Spurs winning more than 48 games, now you and others want to respond to the jokes and totally not mention the REAL facts right in front of your face. Right now i will again prove everything i say, and will put WHERE I GOT THE INFORMATION!! If you and others here still choose to believe without question that is up to you, but don't say that no one told you what i am about to say about the Spurs. First off...Freak i will address YOU simply because Mr.Spur and Spurever are gone, LilStevie has mellowed, Rocksmill is on some other stuff, and your last post you obviously DID NOT think it out. Now i don't know what you TRIED to prove, but you didn't do it. Yes, the Kings won 2 less games and got swept too, but the Kings came to play. If you saw the series from tip to buzzer, you would see that the TEAM made an effort and simlpy lost to the better team. The Spurs were the only team equipped to play and BEAT the Lakers, but lost because of effort and heart(even the coach said it). That is the only way to prove why the best team in the league with the tools to WHIP the Lakers, only managed to lose by a record average...and you know this. Oh yeah don't say DA would have made a difference, because even before he got hurt he only averaged 7.7pts...AD averaged 13.5pts in the playoffs (NBA.COM). Two players don't make a team and that is why even with C-Webb and Duncan trying to win...it wasn't enough. Sean Elliot and Dennis Rodman trade of 1993...easy. This was the LAST of the daring trades, and i will tell you why. This is the year that the Spurs NEEDED someone in the post to relief pressure from David and increase rebounding. Now, Dennis Rodman didn't get real crazy until...HE GOT TO SAN ANTONIO!! The hair and stuff really started then, and now Sean. This is when he first started having kidney problems and the team knew it and traded him as damaged goods, and that is why he failed the Rockets physcial when they tried to trade him when he got worst (Fox Sports: Beyond the Glory). AND WHY WOULD THEY TANK TO HAVE A SHOT AT DUNCAN? Are you crazy? Think about WHAT you just said...the team said to it's players, "Let's LOSE to get Duncan." You just PROVED our point about the class act team!! I don't have to PROVE anything, because all that i say are FACTS that can be checked. You just proved the your mouth and brain and Spurs fans are NOT bed fellows. ------------------ Take the blue pill, and wake up from the computer dream world. I'm a fan of basketball, and knowing the truth for some means finally facing it...I'm TRUTH.
Spurs cap room: The Spurs cap room is around $20-22 million before free agents are signed (Realgm.com). You have to sign David who wants at least $10 million and said would leave the team(KSAT 12 and Express News), you have to sign DA who wants at least $7 million (KSAT 12), AJ is gone who deserved more respect and should retire a Spur(i told you bout Management), Sean Elliot who said he would either retire or play else where because of the LACK of playoff minutes and RESPECT (KSAT 12), Danny Ferry who doesn't want that much, and i don't want to see him a Laker (Walker is due in LA to see about a spot...KSAT 12) 1st round pick Parker who still can't play 3 or 4 or 5!! The 2 2nd round picks who may not make the team, and if they do will not get playing time. You have to sign Dial, Newble, and Scott just to have a bench (Realgm.com)!! You paying 2 players in Jaren Jackson and Chris Carrawell a combined $3 million that DON'T PLAY, and of course...they are 3's. And to top it all off... When all the dust settles... When everything is all said and done... You still have to sign a starting 3 and probably 2 post players. My work here is done, because if you don't believe that i have at least a point...then you truly believe in the falsehood of just because a person is in power means they know better than YOU...wake up for your own sake. ------------------ Take the blue pill, and wake up from the computer dream world. I'm a fan of basketball, and knowing the truth for some means finally facing it...I'm TRUTH.
"At least the Kings were competitive in the four losses. The Spurs lost by a record average of 22 points!" -Not to mention, the Spurs had homecourt advantage and the Kings didn't. That SA team flat out QUIT out there. Sactown was fighting to the last gun. Only one of the LA-SAC games was a blowout. The SA-LA games were like watching men against girls, and on paper they match up better with LA than SAC does. It was a disgraceful, utterly shameful performance. If anyone denies that, they are crazy. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
according to 760am, as of yesterday afternoon's multi-hour show dedicated COMPLETELY to the spurs salary cap... the spurs have 16 million in cap room. at the end of the season the spurs salary was at 16 million. at the beginning of next year the cap will be approximately 42 million.
"DA wants the max"-Mo Diggity Dawg "you have to sign DA who wants at least $7 million (KSAT 12)"-Mo Diggity Dawg Need I say more about the credibility of your posts? ------------------ "I look kind of dumpy. Look at my butt. And what kind of shoes do they have me wearing? At least they got the chinstrap beard right." -Kevin Garnett on the KG bobblehead dolls during KG bobblehead doll night at the Target Center
You know Stevie...you say less and less every time you post, and you DIDN'T say anything trying to disprove my post. Oh yeah... ...KSAT 12 is a local San Antonio TV station whichs gets the news... ...from the Spurs. Later
Funny, I remember saying a few weeks ago that DRob was probably out in SA. David will not take much of a pay-cut, despite what you may hear Peter Holt say. As everyone knows here, Dream made it crystal clear that he won't take a pay-cut, so you know David is wondering why should he be taking one in SA. Perhaps he shouldn't, especially with other teams out there *willing* to cough up the dough. Geez, there's talent out there not even close to DRob making about what he made before free agency, if not more. Ultimately, David and his agent are attempting to strong arm the Spurs into up-ing the ante. I'd bet that he'd be willing to leave if his price cannot be met by the Spurs. The way Peter Holt has been whining about his wallet, David's as good as gone. ------------------ 5..4..3..2..1.....We have lift off! Go Rockets!
and if, i say IF, the spurs lose david...don't even think about webber coming over. 2nd rate organization. 2nd rate coach. 2nd rate city. no night life to speak of. virtually no black population. a shaky backcourt (will DA resign? who's playing 1?) Mo Diggity Dawg, nevermind TheFreak. you'll see how valuable his opinions/posts/insight is in short time. you know how some people have VERY LITTLE or NOTHING to offer of substance, yet still feel the need to throw in their 1 1/2 cents worth? then when challenged, run like david robinson against a good center? yea. there it is. now you're smelling me.
Verse, Webber would never go to the Spurs, I don't think the Spurs are even in his top 10 teams that he would go to. I'm pretty sure that the Spurs already have no chance at CWebb.They have to resign DRob to have a chance to contend. Duncan and DA can take you to the playoffs, but no farther than the first round. So resigning DRob is a must for the Spurs organization, not only to contend, but for their public image. It would be a shame to see DRob retire in a different jersey, just like it would be a shame to watch Dream go to the Wizards or Heat next season. I don't want either of them to turn out like Patrick Ewing... ------------------ "I look kind of dumpy. Look at my butt. And what kind of shoes do they have me wearing? At least they got the chinstrap beard right." -Kevin Garnett on the KG bobblehead dolls during KG bobblehead doll night at the Target Center
I am saying less and less, because I am getting tired of going on with you. Your posts are confusing, what do you want me to comment on about the Spurs? I have already said that they are the number 1 contender to the Lakers if they resign everybody and get a Shandon Anderson or Eddie Robinson. Not to say that they will beat the Lakers if those two things happen, but they should come closer than last year if they can show more hustle and effort. I have already said that the zone won't kill them, because they have great 3 pt. shooters. I have already admitted that the Spurs have no heart or fight in them and that DRob is soft. First of all, I wasn't trying to disprove your post, I was trying to prove the fact that you burst onto the scene stating different things that were false before you finally started to get some info. to back yourself up. I already knew that DA wanted to get paid, but I also knew that he didn't want the max like you had stated. ------------------ "I look kind of dumpy. Look at my butt. And what kind of shoes do they have me wearing? At least they got the chinstrap beard right." -Kevin Garnett on the KG bobblehead dolls during KG bobblehead doll night at the Target Center [This message has been edited by LiLStevie3 (edited July 05, 2001).]
Yes, they left, but I am going to still be here if you want to discuss Spurs. I have admitted the Spurs weaknesses. I also have pointed out the Spurs strengths. You on the other hand were stating how much the Spurs were in disarray, in which I pointed out that they are contenders if they resign everybody and are in better condition than 80-90% of the teams out there. Although, it is a big IF for keeping the team intact, after what DRobs is saying. I was commenting on your first couple of posts in this topic, which were very premature and obnoxious. I would be happy to talk about the Spurs with you now, very unbiasedly. ------------------ "I look kind of dumpy. Look at my butt. And what kind of shoes do they have me wearing? At least they got the chinstrap beard right." -Kevin Garnett on the KG bobblehead dolls during KG bobblehead doll night at the Target Center
Aaron McKey is who the Spurs should go after with all their might. If they keep their team in place and add him, I'd say they would be right there with the Lakers. But just adding Shandon, or Robinson, or Bowen, will NOT get in done next year--barring Shaq or Kobe breaking a leg next. I hate to give the Spurs ideas, but McKey would be the perfect guy they need.
Spurs will have a minimum of $20 million under the cap to work with. DA at $7 mil? Who else can give him that without a sign and trade? DRob at $10 mil...who is going to give him that? IF the Spurs want Robinson back, they can afford him. The perspective that appears to be missing from this thread is that the Spurs may themselves want him to bolt to free up the space to bring in some younger free agents to give Duncan a reason to stay in 2003. Another thing to know is that Duncan is definitely involved when it comes to personnel matters. That's why AJ won't be back. He's still a top 5 center in the game...but to keep him at the expense of missing out on some of the younger free agents this summer when the Spurs have the largest cap flexibility they will have for a long time is pretty dangerous. The main reason SA has never been a free agent haven is first and foremost a lack of cap space, followed by an unwillingness on the part of management to commit to long term contracts with the future of the Spurs in SA uncertain during the late 1990's. Getting info from WOAI and The Ticket in SA is like getting info from the Spurs' PR department...ClearChannel owns both of those and is also a minority owner of the Spurs. I see Mo Dawg has it all figured out. Good for him/her/it. ------------------
WHAT? I have been saying the SAME thang since i started, and now that y'all stop commenting on the jokes and i bring hard facts there is nothing to be said. You think i was making this up? This is a thing of beauty... It doesn't matter, you're right because the people that REALLY said something like: Mr. Spur... Spurever... and The Freak are left with no posts to say anything. There is a difference between "just saying something" and "KNOWING" what you talking about. ------------------ Take the blue pill, and wake up from the computer dream world. I'm a fan of basketball, and knowing the truth for some means finally facing it...I'm TRUTH.
I didn't know the offseason was over Mo. Thanks for informing me. By the way, that pick which you criticized so heavily just came in and scored 29 points to go along with 5 assists in his first summer league game. That just screams bust. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
