Hair Metal Legends WARRANT playing on 6th Street Tonight!

First you tell us Dubya will be a great President, and now you tell us Warrant is a legendary band.

Freak, drop the crackpipe and slowly back away!

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"Blues is a Healer"
--John Lee Hooker

 

Warrant couldn't hold a candle to Cinderella

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stop posting my damn signature

 

One other thing Freak...



If you happen to talk to Jani Lane this evening, tell him to stop hanging out at Fatburger with Axl Rose!!

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"Blues is a Healer"
--John Lee Hooker

 

Return of the Washed Up Hair Bands!!

 

I went to see Warrant about a year and a half ago at Outback Pub on Fountainview. They put on a pretty good show, but then again, maybe it was the hot blonde I was with that made it a memorable night.



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"Clinton lied. A man might forget where he parks or where he lives,
but he never forgets oral sex, no matter how bad it is." -- Barbara Bush

 

You took a hot blonde out to a Warrant concert??????


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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

 

That reminds me of the hillarious commercial about the group "Danger Kitty" doing a reunion tour doing bar mitzvahs

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In the end there will be no judges...only witnesses to my greatness.

 

Ok, ok. Let's all just settle down. Warrant and Poison (among a few other really bad bands) were the personification of everything that went wrong with hard rock and heavy metal in the 80's. You don't have to like it to know that there were early artists of that era that represented innovation in the music industry and with musicians. No big shock.

The problem is that they decided that, like the end of every era in music, the look and the girls were more important than the music. In steps grunge, the complete antithesis of hair bands and on we go.

Grunge was exactly what music needed (well, rock music) at the time and gave it the same kick in the ass the Beatles did and Led Zepplin did and Van Halen, etc. But, the anti-star pose that is so prominant throughout the world of music today is just as bad as the hair band pose of the late 80's. And so it goes...

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Me fail English? That's unpossible.

 

I was surprised to read they were playing a club. I thought you were going to tell me they were busking on the corner of 6th and Rio Grande.

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If I ain't dead already, girl you know the reason why...

 

Brilliant! Playing a club...I thought they were washing drink glasses at a club! They are way too girly to be bouncers! LOL!

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"Blues is a Healer"
--John Lee Hooker

[This message has been edited by RocketMan Tex (edited February 07, 2001).]

 

Warrant huh?? Does a body good to know that in the midst of all these crap bands out these days..there are still great bands from the 80's still around!

btw...i'm not really saying that Warrant was a "great" band.

Tesla will be in town end of this month..any of you guys thinkin of goin>>

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Lar

 

Freak: You make a good argument but I think beauty is really in the eye of the beholder.

To me, a great song comes from three things:

- The hook
- The performance
- The execution (how it fits in that era, genre, etc)

Just as Hey Jude was a great song for those reasons, so was Teen Spirit or Hotel California.

Obviously, we are only talking rock and pop here. Other genres of music have different requirements for greatness. Blues, jazz, classical, etc are judged completely differently.

Now, if I had to rank great hard rock/heavy metal in your A/B/C categories, I'd go like this (in no particular order except category)...

A:
Van Halen - the kings of hard rock, no one was ever better in this genre
Motley Crue - Too Fast for Love and Shout at the Devil Worked were great but everything thereafter went downhill.
Def Leppard - best production of all of them - thank you Mr. Shania
Judas Priest - no nonsense, no bullsh!t heavy metal
ACDC - see Judas Priest but insert "hard rock"
Kiss - gotta be in there
Aerosmith - one notch down from Van Halen
Guns and Roses - Changed the way metal was viewed
Rainbow - How cool were they!
Deep Purple - Ritchie Blackmore again.
UFO - Maybe the best of the barley-known's
Ozzy Osborne - Can't leave him out.
King's X - Great despite lack of popularity.
Queensryche - Best progressive heavy metal ever.
Scorpions - Tight, together melodic heavy stuff.
David Lee Roth - Even on his own, he was killer, especially Eat 'Em and Smile.
Metallica - Changed heavy metal forever.
Bon Jovi - They wrote great songs and played well. So what if Jon wanted to be Springsteen.

B:
Neo-Classical & Musician Heavy Metal - Yngwie Malmsteen, Vinnie Moore, Tony MacAlpine, Racer X, Mr. Big, et al. Their influence on hard rock was undeniable.
LA Guns - Great hooks. The best of LA's straight-ahead hard rock/metal?
Ratt - Very solid all around.
Dokken - Weinies but great musicians and hooks.
Melodic Heavies - This includes the TNT's, Y&T's, Rough Cutt, Dio, etc.
The Cult - Love was great but Electric was a classic.
Enuff Z Nuff - Strength is still one of my favorite records but the rest of their stuff was weak.
Iron Maiden - Really made the most of one beat - the gallup.
Stryper - Man, were they cheesy, but their early stuff had terrific hooks and very good musicianship. The later stuff was purely awful.
Accept - Any band with a midget lead singer named Udo Dirkschneider deserves at least the B list.
Motorhead - They were really a terrible band but Lemmy was awesome and they influenced a lot of people.

C:
Poison - passable songs and questionable musicianship - got by on looks more than anything
Cinderella - Rootsy heavy metal that was performed at an average level.
Warrant - the death of hair bands - Cherry Pie was awful.
Winger - ugh - great drummer and guitarist - Kip is a talented writer now doing film scores - but, otherwise, ugh.
Slaughter - horrible
The Rest - Firehouse, Trixter, WASP, Krokus, Lita Ford, blah, blah, blah - bottom of the barrel - too bad to list individually.

I left off some bands on purpose - Zepplin and Black Sabbath were too early for this list; Cheap Trick is really pop music; Rush, Triumph, Zebra and Dream Theater are really progressive rock or something else, but not heavy metal. I didn't include the speed metal and such like Slayer, Anthrax, Pantera, Danzig, etc., though they definitely had an impact on this stuff.

This music had it's place and it was fine for the time but it isn't way up there in terms of quality of music anymore than anything else. Some of it worked and some of it didn't, but the problem was that the gimmick of heavy music, excess and make-up did more to damage its image than help it. Ironic that new wave and heavy metal had so much in common.

They both wrote music that consisted of boring songs performed with lead-pipe subtelty but their energy and music gimmick (guitars for hard rock, synths for new wave) made up for it. Their images were essentially the same as well. New Wave had shorter hair but it was teased and spiked. Heavy metal had teased and spiked long hair. They both wore makeup. They both had a "uniform". Spandex and boots for heavy metal, suits and skinny ties for new wave.

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Me fail English? That's unpossible.

[This message has been edited by Jeff (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

what about Cree...uh I mean Stryper? Christian Rock rules!

[edit: oops sorry jeff, i noticed they were on your list after all.]




[This message has been edited by outlaw (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

outlaw - after my final edit, they got on my list. Hit reload.

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Me fail English? That's unpossible.

 

ouch!!!

As much as I absolutley HATE to admit it..you are pretty much dead on in your assesment of the era...

EXCEPT!!!!!!
1) Iron Maiden has more than just the gallop!
listen to more than just the most popular songs from them..they are far more diverse than you give them credit for.I think swap BJ with IM in the "A" list would be about right.Considering Maiden is normally mentioned in the same breath as JP for most metal/hard rock fans.

2) WASP cannot really be relegated to the "Hair-Metal" genre...they were more along the lines of NY Dolls/Alice Cooper mix than a pop-hard rock band..the only thing they had in common was the long hair.
after all..who else in your list would put out a song called "Animal(I F*ck Like A Beast)??

3)Lita?? horrible?? how can any woman that looks as good as her be considered horrible??
comeon Jeff...you haven't been married that long!!


and btw...you left out Loudness

edit: ok , so you didn't call her horrible, that was Slaughter. which I also don't agree with...Dana Strum was a pretty good bass player..I know you noticed his lines..you are a bass player aren't you??
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Lar

[This message has been edited by myputersux (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

Blech! Talking about all these crappy bands is making me sick! Or is it all the beer I drank last night? Hmmmmmmmm.......

Sorry...gotta go put on a Muddy Waters record!

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"Blues is a Healer"
--John Lee Hooker