MAVS=THE NEW JAZZ? I know we all hate the late ninties jazz but i couldnt help but notice the similar qualities of the two teams. Karl Malone-PF and Dirk-PF-- Karl is the biggest flopper i have ever seen but his comaprison is Dirk who is almost has big a flopper. Greg Ostertag-C-Erick Dampier-another goofy center thinking he is one of the best in the league. i still hate osterfag john stockton and jason Terry- Antother point guard who decides that he cant miss at all in the series. im hoping this game six wont have the same ending as that game six! i dont know about you guys but im really starting to hate mavs fans and the team in general,we needed a new team to hate to me the mavs fit the bill.
Definitely. That's what I've been saying around my circle of friends. No one in the league flops like Dirk - not to my knowledge, anyway. And Mavs fans don't make it any easier for me to like that team. I really despise Mark Cuban. I can't stand Dirk's game. If he's not flopping, he's crying.
the only comparison WOULD be malone to dirk although only slightly. terry is in no way like stockton, stockton is a legend, as much as i hated him he was one of the best. terry is no where near that. and dampier is alot stronger and skilled than ostertag. Ostertag thought he was the best? hahaha i dont know if thats true but its funny just to think about it. i do hate the mavs though
a) you're missing the original poster's point b) this is jason terry's first time being on a good team, and uh...he's been impressive. c) ostertag thought he was great, and no -- dampier isn't much better than he is. I've seen him dunk a few times this series, what have you seen that I haven't? I didn't notice this, but yeah, the mavs are alot like the jazz. no wonder why I despise them.
I've also been thinking Dallas is like the modern Utah Jazz. Dirk should really receive an Oscar for best actor. He is shameless in his flopping and constantly travels during his drive across the lane without being called for it. I'd hate for the Mavericks (and espicially the city of Dallas) to beat us.
Not for me, the Jazz were a dirty team before Stockton/Malone were in the league - but those guys made the '80's Celtics look like choir boys and got away with it their entire careers. Cuban is a unique problem, but I wouldn't call any of the Mav's dirty players. In basketball everyone breaks the rules, but the Jazz perfected cheating in ways I haven't seen in the last 25 years.
Yes, lets just hope Dirk Nowitski doesnt bearhug Tracy McGrady so that Jason Terry can shoot an open 30 footer for the win. Heh, another similarity, complete and utter BS bad/no calls at a crucial situation.
yeah, but they're kinda harmless, it seems. the mavs have all this crap going for them...and they're from dallas. double whammy.
Frankly, I don't think they're good enough to be the "new Jazz". Maybe if they had kept Nash, and he was a little younger, and him and Dirk stayed together for 12 years... then you'd have a case. Right now, I see a Mavs team that may end up like the Kings are now in just a few years... especially since big-ticket FA's like Dampier is a bust, Finley is almost done, Dirk has been exposed as just another euro-softy, and guys like Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels, and Jason Terry are soon going to be wondering when their "big pay day" is gonna come. I guess if there HAD to be a leading candidate, it would be them... but they are still light years away from accomplishing that.
I think it would take the old Jazz team down a notch or two from their legendary loathsomeness to compare them to Dallas. ALL the Jazz players were super floppers. Stock, Hornaceck, Malone... on top of that Malone was a very violent, injury-inducing b*stard. And then Sloan would go ballistic at every call that didn't go his way, even though his team went over the top to manipulate the refs at every opportunity. Everybody in the league knew that they were the dirtiest team, period. They were a consistent winning team year after year after year with their efficient, dirty, flopping, elbow throwing style. And then, playing "Walk like a Nigerian" on the PA system whenever Hakeem gets the ball. Dallas... not so easy for me to hate, yet. None of their players are true-bred a**holes. Dirk is a golden boy flopper who gets way too much protection from the refs. That's annoying. Dampier talking trash was lame, but he has been utterly and completely shown up. Furthermore, this team just hasn't done very much winning in the playoffs to induce envy or spite or whatever. Hell, this isn't even a true rivalry yet- what star has stepped up to Tracy's level on the Mavs team? Noone, so we can't talk smack about that. Other than the Dampier quotes, we don't have any real trash talk between the two teams. Both teams know that the other performs best under pressure, with motivation, and they don't want to feed them with bulletin board material. Let's see what happens after the series, see if there's any bad blood then.
I agree with everything Nolen said.From back in the day till now,the Jazz have been a reflection of Sloan and how he played the game.For me there is no comparison,the Jazz take the cake by a mile. It is obvious that the Mavs will be an actual rivalry now.
Even better... out of all of them, the only one I see with a "bright" future (meaning a possible all-star) is Howard. Terry will be decent, but Daniels has no special talent besides athleticism.... he'll be another Shandon Anderson. I'd love to see the Mavs saddled with all these marginal players on their payroll: Dampier, Howard, Daniels, etc.... because in the end, they will still need another superstar to win a championship.
howard was a first round pick, 29th i believe so he is still on his rookie contract for a year maybe 2. he is not getting "paid" by nba standards for the type of player he is. marquis daniels got the full MLE last summer because he was a free agent rookie signing for a year last season. howard imo is the better player than daniels and if cuban gave daniels the full MLE howard will want at least the MLE if not more
