So, What can we get for Bagwell?

I would never suggest trading him (unless we could get something really serious back for him...then I guess even I would consider it)


But to consider the question.. I doubt we can get any real prospects out of a deal for a broken down Bagwell at this point. I'd imagine we'd get a Redding or Duckworth-type prospect. A guy that was once projected to be good but hasn't panned out yet (and probably won't)

Add to the equation what Bagwell means to the franchise, the attitude he brings to the clubhouse, and what he's done over the years.. I don't think we make a deal for so little.


(But like I said, I wouldn't consider it)

 

C'mon now, do you really think the 'Stros would trade Bagwell after all he's done for the organization? And, do you really think another team is gonna take him on at this point in his career when you you weigh his production against his salary? Nu uh. The only reason the Astros would trade him is 'cause they suck (check), they won't have a legit shot at making the playoffs come the deadline (rapidly approaching), and they wanna give him a shot to win a World Series with a contender.

 

Isn't he getting paid something along the lines of $17 million?

What can we get?

Absolutely nothing.

 

We would have to pay another team to take him. I expect for him to start hitting better when Berkman returns to the lineup as pitchers will not be able to pitch around him with such ease.

 

a dozen baseballs??

 

The Stros would have to agree to pick up most of his contract in a trade, a la the Sosa deal. And what's the point of trading him if we're going to still pay his salary. We've got Bags for this season and next, after which he'll presumably retire with that arthritic shoulder.

 

When he ends the season with 90 RBI's again, can I rub this all in your face.

 

It doesn't matter. Most Astros fans have the loyalty of a two-dollar hooker.

 

I am just glad he is his slump now and not later in the season. He goes through this at some point every freakin year and the fans start screaming for him to pack his stuff and leave. He always puts up good power numbers and RBI's. My only problem with Bagwell is that he can't throw.

I like how Garner has been replacing Bagwell in close games when a throw might be necessary.

 

Loyalty?

LOL....they get paid to play, and when they can't help us win anymore, they should retire, or move on.....

Bizness is Bizness.

The players today hang on for the big bucks FAR too long...Bags is a prime example.

Too bad Baseball doesn't have NFL like contracts.

DD

 

I'll take that bet!

And anyway, you expect more than 90 RBIs for $17 million this year. But no way he reaches 90 anyway.

 

Hey, fans are more loyal than players. When players leave or get ridiculous contracts to stay, it's all about business. But when those same players don't deliver, fans aren't entitled to get upset?

 

So true....once Bagwell is done I want to see Berkman at first. I think that will be good for his legs.

 

have you ever taken a paycut to root for the Astros??

 

While this sounds right in principle, the fact is this is a backloaded contract. He was being paid far under market value when he was piling up Hall of Fame numbers and credentials, and now it's time to pay the piper, as it were. The backloading of the contract was the idea of Hunsicker and McLane, not Bagwell. But, feel free to make him the bad guy if you wish.

You're on.

 

And for my third post in a row...

Bagwell has no trade value, unless you can name a team that wants a 1st basemen who can't throw and who isn't hitting for average or power... at $17 million this year alone.

Only starry-eyed fan boys could see any value in Bagwell. They're living in the past.

 

Let's say you walk into work and you are offered a guaranteed contract. The first couple of years you are paid an amount under the industry average....but in three years you will be paid way more than the average.....are you saying you would not take it?

 

We could probably trade Bagwell, Burke, and Astocio for nothing. The other team would need compensation for taking on Bagwell's contract so Burke and Astocio would probably do it.

That being said we are just going to have to bite the bullet and keep him. If he has a horrible year and bats like .240 with 18 HR's there is a chance he would accept a buyout and reitre at the end of the year.

 

It's kind of sad actually. I really think he's hurting his chances at the hall by playing well past his time. The career batting average continues to slide...