ESPN radio/David Aldridge is reporting that it is a 2 year deal. ------------------ "I'll tell you this, the older I get, the less I trust people. It's true. It's damn true." -- gr8-1 going through some growing pains.
DOD, Did they give any salary numbers? ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Nope. ------------------ "I'll tell you this, the older I get, the less I trust people. It's true. It's damn true." -- gr8-1 going through some growing pains.
The Cat: here's something to consider... SCENARIO #1: spurs sign dave & DA question: who's going to play 3? who's going to back up the post players? ferry's pretty much assumed to leave, according to most in san antonio. SCENARIO #2: spurs sign dave & webb, but lose DA question: who's going to play 2? who's going to play 3? natural intrigue is to play dunc, webb and dave together, but IMO, that would be disastrous. NONE of these players are built to play the 3. the spurs have tried tim at the three before, when they had purdue @ 5, david @ 4, and tim @ 3. it amounted to a gimmick offense. tim did well on defense against the 3s. that's not a surprise considering he had 2 towers backing him up. he could just play the drive. offensively, however, he struggled when forced to float and cut. he never really got into the games and made the impact the spurs are used to. in short, it wasn't the right move. SCENARIO #3: spurs sign dave, webb, and DA. highly unlikely, given each person's salary demands. nonetheless...who plays the 3? and will dave be content coming off the bench? OTHER QUESTIONS... 1) point guard. pop never has liked antonio daniels at the point. word is that terry porter will be starting. i don't know about you, but that's pretty scary. tp may have had a good year last year, but to expect him to hold the starting point job down for the spurs over the course of the season - at his age - is asking a hell of a lot. nevermind the defensive liabilities he presents. tony parker? no. let's not be unrealistic. 2. backup posts samaki walker is on his way to los angeles (great job by spurs management ), to help the lakers. shawnelle scott has bench splinters. malik rose is a great energy guy, but not the person you want to rely on as your 3rd post player (should they not get c webb.) he's severely undersized for the 5 spot, and mildly undersized for the 4 spot. 3. derek anderson will his shoulder heal 100%? those on this bbs that have ever had a 3rd degree separation or know much about it will tell you....: they don't always heal 100%. in fact, they usually are susceptable to future separations.
verse: you don't htink that Webber could play the 3? I think you'd give somethign up on defense, but he's got a very nice jump shot and has pretty good ball skills. Probably not an ideal solution, but I think he'd do well in limited minutes there, since the Spurs would definitely try to have 2/3 of them on the court at the same time. ------------------ Clutchcity.net... source for all your Rockets, Astros, political, music, humor, and Gordita news.
Verse, Scenario 1-- If they resign DA and Dave, they will easily have room to sign Bruce Bowen and play him at the 3. He wants to play in San Antonio if the terms can be worked out, and if Dave accepts just a little under 10 million they can work. Bowen can shoot it well, has good fundamentals, and plays good defense. Scenario 2-- Tim would play the 3 at the start of the games, and he would just be the type of 3 that posts more, much like Shareef was in Vancouver. However, I wouldn't expect him to play much 3, just a little bit at the start of the 1st and 3rd quarters, and the last couple of minutes of the 4th. I'd suspect the Spurs would try and limit Robinson's minutes down to about 25 minutes per game, and play Duncan at center when Dave sat down. There would be a three-man rotation of big men, but I suspect that they wouldn't play them all at the same time too often. Scenario 3-- Duncan would start the games at the 3, and DA could slide over there against backups while Daniels came in as the 2. They can always find a cheaper 3 that can shoot like Ferry last year if needed. Porter, to me, is still a very viable option at point guard. Despite his age, he is not injury-prone, and he's not a poor defender. He's a great shooter, gets everyone involved, does whatever they need him to do. How many backup posts do they need? Assuming that Duncan and Robinson stay healthy, like they normally do, Rose is fine coming off the bench. He is small at center, but the Spurs can always run Duncan against the big centers and Rose against the PF's if that becomes a necessity. As for Anderson, I agree on that point. However, he was a real nice player last year, and it's a risk they have to take. I'm sure the Spurs medical staff will take a close look at him before signing him to a big deal though. P.S.-- I know it's just a rumor, but if the Spurs gave Dave 25 million over 2 years their front office is full of complete morons. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Well Chris Webber had the same kind of shoulder separation in Washington and he is fine. I'm sure Derek Anderson will be fine. Also the summer isn't done yet, it really hasn't gotten started, the Spurs will likely get some help off the bench. In fact Samaki Walker going to Los Angeles isn't going to help them with Horace Grant leaving. It's actually a step down. ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air
DRob's agent was on talk radio here in SA this afternoon. He was asked point blank for numbers of the deal but he refused to give any. All he would say is that David was happy with it and so were the Spurs. Apparently the first year is low enough to fit in DA(media's speculation not the agent's). Haven't heard if there's also enough after DA for anyone else or if they'll have to use the 4.5 exception for a 3. ------------------
DA may very well be the odd man out. The word is that Daniels has been promised a starting spot. At this time, I definitely do not see Popovich going with 107 year old Terry Porter in the starting lineup. One interesting possibility is Porter to Miami for Bowen in a sign and trade. I like that since you don't waste cap space on a Bruce Bowen. They are looking around the league for cheap backup point help...TP is nice off the bench for 15 minutes a game, but putting him in the starting lineup and giving a Kobe Bryant the opportunity to stroll up the court with him and save his energy for his offense is not a good idea. The Spurs are hyped on their draft pick Tony Parker...but he's still a 19 year old Euro. We shall see. They definitely seem to want to give him some PT. I don't know what is more surprising, that Pop drafted a 19 year old, or that he retained a low first round pick...but in any event, they tried to trade up for this guy or Gerald Wallace and this guy fell into their laps. As for DRob's contract, estimates have ranged from 2 years, $25 million to 2 years $18 million to 3 years, $25 million. The latter would have his deal starting at about $7.5 mil, which would work well when it comes to pursuing other free agents. The initial impression was that the Spurs had just used most of their precious cap space on DRob, but that seems to be less likely now... As far as DA, this is certainly the hardest to gauge...One gets the feeling that the Spurs don't want him around anymore...he definitely put off a number of people by talking about money and shots in the playoffs, just as his backup, Daniels, was performing well. Anderson had a horrid showing versus Minnesota when he was pretty much shut down by Felipe Lopez... What is most intriguing is that the Spurs had an interest in ERob and from what I've heard, had worked out a deal in the event that the Spurs were not able to land a better talent via free agency (ie Webber)...ERob would've addressed the Spurs glaring need at the 3. Well, the Spurs apparently elected to go a different direction than ERob and the Bulls landed him for reportedly 5 years/$30 million (starting at $5 mil a season)...This is perplexing since ERob would've been the 'safe' and 'wise' choice...and for $5 mil the Spurs definitely should've been able to work him into their cap space. Talk about Bowen reappeared just as the ERob talk died. Bowen would cost half as much as ERob and you probably wouldn't have to offer him a solid shot at a starting job, unlike ERob... Bowen would be great off the bench, but as a starter...? I don't see it. The Spurs acquiring a reserve 3 but not a starter in free agency? Nope, unless that would fit in with Webber joining SA, and either he or Duncan at least on paper being the 3. Then when DRob rests, Duncan moves to 5 as usual, Webber to the 4, and Bowen to the 3... But the backcourt...hmmmm...if DRob is at $7.5 mil and won't go lower if they could bring in a top free agent, I definitely see DA gone now. If DRob and DA were returning, then it would seem to make sense to see the Spurs add ERob as well. Of course, no one knows for certain what is going on, but things remain interesting and DRob's re-signing does not remove the Spurs as a possible destination for Webber... ------------------ [This message has been edited by Spurever (edited July 12, 2001).]
As far as DA, this is certainly the hardest to gauge...One gets the feeling that the Spurs don't want him around anymore...he definitely put off a number of people by talking about money and shots in the playoffs, just as his backup, Daniels, was performing well. Anderson had a horrid showing versus Minnesota when he was pretty much shut down by Felipe Lopez... You know that is screwed up logic by the Spurs, and if he leaves I have to turn around and agree with verse. I don't think the Spurs are title contenders. Derek Anderson adds another dimension. You think the Spurs would understand that the reason Anderson may have struggled is because it was his FIRST playoff appearance! He was probably nervous. ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air
Daniels does have better defense, a similar shot, is best friends with Duncan, and comes cheaper than Anderson. I guess they'd rather take their chances with Daniels than overpay for Anderson. This, in turn, would likely land Anderson in Denver, and to get him there, a 3rd team would have to be involved. That's where the Rockets come in. We'll facilitate the 3 team trade and recieve LaFrentz. If that were to materialize, it would make this offseason beyond perfect. ------------------ matirmama, alabdhabhuumikatva
Spurs could just play Bruce Bowen at the 3, no? He brings more to the team than Ferry when you consider athleticism and defense. A starting 5 which includes 40 year old Terry Porter and Danny Bullard, I mean Ferry is just not athletic enough to compete with LA. Spurs better re-sign DA. Daniels had a good playoffs, but I'm not sold on his ability to start in the NBA. He was a bad shooter till last year (was last year a fluke?) DA had a poor playoffs but is an emerging star in my opinion. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
I always figured they'd play Daniels at the PG and Anderson at the two. They played Daniels at the PG spot before they got Terry Porter. Damn, the spurs are old . . . ------------------ I'm looking for a job, so hire me "And I just have to smile and say 'well, I hope so' while I'm really thinking inside how I'd like to just strangle them and take their job."
But the backcourt...hmmmm...if DRob is at $7.5 mil and won't go lower if they could bring in a top free agent, I definitely see DA gone now. If DRob and DA were returning, then it would seem to make sense to see the Spurs add ERob as well. Of course, no one knows for certain what is going on, but things remain interesting and DRob's re-signing does not remove the Spurs as a possible destination for Webber... Very well said. I agree on all of those points, and hopefully the Spurs do have something working behind the scenes... we need them to be the ones sweeping LA next year! Keep us posted if you hear any rumors. Good luck. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
This according to KSAT 12 news in San Antonio. Just heard about this, and I know no specifics regarding contract size, etc. If any of you live in San Antonio, turn on your TV and let us know if you find out anything. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Robinson, Spurs Agree To New Deal Details Not Released SAN ANTONIO, 12:20 p.m. CDT July 12, 2001 -- The San Antonio Spurs have signed free agent center David Robinson to a new contract, KSAT 12 Sports reported. Sources tell KSAT 12 Sports that a new deal was agreed but no details were released. Robinson's agent Jeff Austin said that he was very confident that Robinson would be in a Spurs uniform next season, but he would not confirm whether a new contract was agreed upon. Be sure to watch KSAT 12 Sports at 5, 6 and 10 for complete details. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Davis, Drob, who's next? ------------------ T-Pooh and Quitten went up the hill, to make a bet on a Foreward. When it all came down, they were nowhere to be found. Now they should be drawn and quartered.
This guarantees that Derek Anderson will return. The only reason he hadn't agreed to a deal with the Spurs was because he and his agent were waiting for Robinson to sign. ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air
SA Express-News reporting this morning that it's a two year $20 million deal starting at $9.4 leaving $6.6 for DA. If so and DA takes it,that doesn't leave anything for a 3 unless there's a trade or an exception left(I believe it was used on DA last year so can't be used this year?). Hopefully the Spurs have something up their sleeves because,at this point, they'll have less than last year to challenge the Lakers with. Good team,no doubt, but good enough? ------------------
i think my point/points about the spurs have been proven quite eloquently over the past few weeks. 2 @ 20? so how much is left for DA? and the 3 and 1 is still up for grabs, right? ok, i'm gonna go try out for the spurs. **** it. i can beat out derrick dial or tony parker. j/k. or am i? SA Rocket & Spurever & Mr.Spur: do you guys live in san antonio? if so, where? maybe we can hook up on the court....
