[Fox Propaganda Service] Was Iraq Behind the Oklahoma City Bombing?

I disagree with Colmes. He doesn't admit to giving in, but he doesn't press issues and facts that are clearly in his favor, and let's Hannity get away with stuff that is skewed, or altogether untrue.

There are moments where Colmes says he isn't going to let Hannity get away with something, but those are on about 1 issues out of 10.

 

One of the funniest lines I have read on this board I agree with you totally.

 

Hannity is the dumbed-down version of Rush.

Are you accusing Fox News of only allowing B-Team liberals on the air?

 

I am accusing Fox of that in as far as who they hire.

 

Okay, yeah, that's what I meant to say!

And do you not see this same bias in reverse in, say, CBS?

 

I don't know much about the whole thing, but I'm scratching my head as to why a right-wing nut like McVeigh would conspire with foreign powers. It doesn't seem like something he'd do.

 

No. CBS doesn't generally try and pit one side against another. Their ideal is to have folks who are on neither side.

I will agree that Dan Rather was left leaning. That wasn't a pattern of CBS coverage. Fox can't say the same thing.

 

The people who run FOX "News" were big wigs in the republican party! It's not one or two reporters, it's an instituional agenda.

Reports have been fired and suspended for just asking tough questions to leading republican figures.

When Clinton was president they attacked him on everything. It was bias but, at least they were attacking the government, so I didn't have that much of a problem. Now however, they are lap dogs to the administration.

To anyone who believes that they are not biased, i ask only for you to watch (if you must) and see if they EVER attack anything bush does or even questions it for that matter.

 

Ironically, I'm supposed to be one of the dogs lapping up this anti-Democratic bile and I rarely watch Fox News. How did I get like this on my own?

 

The only fertilizer worth mentioning here comes out of a cow's rear end. Look out for those cow patties, and if you're watching Faux News, duck and cover.

I should have known that giddy, in his ongoing effort to drive me mad, would come to the defense of this putridity!


edit: Dang, giddy, I would have quoted you if I'd seen it first!

Keep D&D Civil!!

 

Geeeeezz.... this thread is painful beyond words.

On Fox News:
They suck. They are the worst kind of news organization. They present themselves as a straight laced news organization and present heavily opinionated programming. The Washington Post shows that Fox News has an extremely high percentage of opinion included with its standard news compared to other news organizations. I would hope that there isn't anyone here so dense as to believe that those opinions don't lean toward conservative political views. Hint: If you are conservative and you agree with most everything they say, then they are conservative like you.

I could care less that Fox News is conservative. I have a problem with the fact they LIE about what they do.

On this article:
Pure Bulls**t. "The whole thing stinks of Iraq." Are you really going to believe a news story that uses language like this? How can you even begin to take a story seriously when it mimicks all of the conspiracy theorist AM talk radio? There are no quotations in the story. No references to any interviews, sources... nothing.

On the Oklahoma City Bombing:
A lesson in structural engineering. Take out a beam, and one floor falls down. Take out a column, and that floor and every floor above it falls down. The Murrah Building had many elements that are typical to an urban building in this region that make it particularly susceptible to blasts.

1) It is close to the street, and a truck could be parked directly next it.
2) The worst-case column conditions are on the ground floor because lobbies are taller than any other floor in the building, and they are carrying the weight of the entire building.
3) Not being in an earthquake zone and not being designed for blasts, the columns had standard vertical and non-continuous stirrup reinforcement.

All the blast had to do was shatter the concrete in one bay of the ground floor columns and the entire building would come down. In earthquake and blast design, concrete columns have spiral reinforcing.... basically there are continuous steel bars running vertically that are inside a slinky-like steel cage. If the concrete shatters, the slinky holds everything together in a cage. In Oklahoma City, the stirrups were all separate, so the cage fell apart, and the concrete fell out, leaving no integrity to the structure.

Because of the fact that the lobby was extra tall, the columns were like toothpicks buckling under the load of the entire building.

 

You would think so. Alas.