People are saying that the refs were biased in taking back that 3 by Barry in the pheonix game, I think it might have been deeper than that. Barry took 2 fast break pull up jump shots in the 3rd quarter within a minute or each other, they were pretty much from the same spot but he missed the 1st and made the 2nd. On the missed shot i remember his foot being on the line so it was a clear 2. Now what if the suns video ppl at courtside called the ref over, showed barry's 1st shot, which looks just like the 2nd shot; paused the video of when he took the 1st, so that looks like a 2 instead of a 3. And the ref bought it since they look so similar. That's some home court advantage right there
Bill Worrell said that the head of the officiating crew, Bob Delaney, came over and explained to him that since none of the 3 refs was in position to see the line when the shot was taken, that they could not call it as a three and could only assume it was a regular two. Then Bill said that on the replay the ref in position actually did put both arms up to indicate that a three had been attempted. So who knows what to believe. The only thing certain is that NBA officiating is consistently inaccurate, consistently biased, and consistently inconsistent. And every year David Stern gets on TV a few times (generally when ESPN or some other big national media widely publicizes a particular one of the many poorly called games) with his calculating little grin and defends his refs and their calls to no end. That guy will do or say just about anything to make an extra 39 cents if he can. He'd not only sell out his own mother, he'd send her C.O.D.
The first spot up he took was from the right side of the wing and the second one was from the left side...so they couldn't have done that.
I say it here & I 'll say it again: Bob Delaney and Bill Spooner are two biggest wankers in NBA. Rockets always get screwed royally with these two dick heads
referees don't have anything against the rockets, they're just f#$king terrible in general. i'm as excited about the rockets as any year EVER, including the championship seasons but my excitement for the nba is dwindling mostly in part to these clowns who blow call after call and cater to superstars and anyone who b****es enough. why do they blow whistles on clear flops? are they really that stupid? why do they watch someone pop a guy on the arm directly in front of their face and do nothing? why do they ask the scorer's table how many fouls shaq has? i'm sure there are some good guys among the group but imo they're bringing down the product. as or the barry three, why on earth would the idiot hold his hands up for a three then change it later, because, "no one saw it". keep the original call then. unbelievable.
I thought it was a two at first. The very first angle that they showed him taking the short during the flow of the game, it looked like a two to me. I wasn't surprised when they changed it to a two. But I was surprised after I saw the replay, but that was a different angle. I could of sworn he was on the line when I saw him first take the shot. I don't know what to think. I'm just glad we won.
I didn't see the play but it sounds like the Jimmy Jax 3 that wasn't, ending his streak early in the season.
well...then watch it... Rox v Suns Clips 04/09/05 torrent re: The 3 I alreday talked about this in the other thread...but it is so obvious that was totally a blown call...a ref a few feet away called it a 3...then they tried to passoff the BS about "not being in position to see"...the tape clearly shows a ref right behind JB.. the refs are getting worse and worse every game...they beter get it together soon...these shaft jobs can not continue
Is it obvious when he first shoots it before the reply? In the chat I said it was a two before they reversed it. Does his foot slide? On the replay they cut it off before the ball leaves his hands. The whole thing is weird to me.
i watched the game on ESPN rather than FSN, and when they showed the replay (suposedly what the refs were seeing) they paused the replay and Barry's foot was clearly behind the arc. So go figure? I swore it was a 2 at first as well, b/c further away it looked that way, but when it was a close up shot, you could see separation between the 3 pt line and his foot.
If the refs had initially called it a two, and stuck with it, saying that none of them were in position to see... well, I could accept that. But that's not what happened. let's look at the facts: Barry's feet were behind the 3pt. line - the shot went in There was a referee no more than 8 feet away from barry (pause the highlight clip at 2:14 to verify this). This referee was standing directly behind Barry. That referee put up one arm (his right arm) immediately after the ball left Barry's hands, and before the ball went through the cylindar. This seems to indicate that he was able to make an assessment of Barry's shot; however, there are no official gestures for indicating a shot is a 2 or 3 pointer. The shot was immediately scored as a three FACT (if we are to believe the words of Worrell) The head of the officiating crew, Bob Delaney, said that since none of the referees were in position to dtermine if the shot was or was not a 3, that it would be scored as a two. Now, here's what doesn't make sense to me: It was immediately scored as a 3. If they weren't in a position to see the shot, that means they aren't able to accurately determine if the call should be reveresed. Since that is true, the call should NOT have been reversed. The fact that they reversed a call (fact) and (by their own admission) did not have sufficient evidence to do so, indicates to me a discrimination against the Rockets. -- droxford
Not to lament a dead horse, but how do you have "consistant" officiating when literally, you call travelling or a foul on almost every play? Is has long been no secret that the NBA officials call games during the season IN FAVOR of the home team. Those are the people who paid to see the particular game, and those are the fans the NBA wants to please. Who can blame them? Remember, this league is no longer about basketball, competition, championships, or team play. It is about marketing and money. In that context, you make the calls for the people who paid the $$.
I'm sorry, but aren't they NOT supposed to watch replays except at the end of a quarter? Cuz if they could, I think we could manage to string together couple of dumbass calls for them to reverse. And I don't know how they concluded if it wasn't a 3, if they did indeed see the replay.
