Ok. From Yahoo : And Delay says: But now ol' Tom says: - link And finally: hypocrisy Meanwhile - real problems are still ignored while media and politcians continue to promote trivial controversies.
Well we have to update the long term observation about conservatives and the right to life. Conservatives believe that the right to life begins at conception and ends at birth. It starts again when you are in a vegetative state with no brain waves.
It's laughable that you think this is a right-wing agenda issue when the VAST majority of politicians are for the fight... left-wing included. Hell, Jesse Jackson is fighting for her... and he's no republican.
Once again, you can't compare to two scenarios because no on in DeLay's family wanted his father to live... Terri's parents are the ones who started this fight, and as her parents they have the right to try... As for other issues being ignored, when congress and the President voted and past the bill they weren't in regular session. Congress votes on mundane things all of the time on both sides of the political isle.
The only thing laughable is thinking that this "fight" is anything but an attempt to capitalize on a divided family's grief and despair. As for DeLay... he is a piece of walking excrement, but I think what happened to one of his family members shouldn't be used politically against him, just like I think it's poor taste to jump up and down about Jerry Falwell's health problems. More to the point, just like it has been a travesty watching the Republicans and the media exploit Terri Shaivo and her divided family. In my opinion, the situation and sorrow of all involved should never have become public. The exploitation of what should be a private matter is sickening. Keep D&D Civil!!
Jesse Jackson is as much of a Media Hound as Tom Delay or the RNC...this is press, nothing more. If you, sir, beleive that this issue wasn't first siezed upon by right-wing republicans and elevated to the national level at their fanatical perisistence, then I have a an affordable plot of ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.... Left Wing politicians DID take part in this debate in favor of Shiavo's parents. However, it's "laughable" that you can ignore the facts that this IS a right-wing agenda issue elevated by right-wing politicos! And to those Dems who blinked and took part in this sorry fiasco that has done nothing more than further weaken our Federal system--SHAME on you!
i understand what you're saying here. but it becomes public record by its very nature when the family disagrees earnestly with the husband regarding the life of their daughter...and uses the courts as their forum for that disagreement.
It was common knowledge among the press that JFK would poke just about anything in a skirt. They didn't report it. I understand what you're saying. I just wish the current political party in power, and the media, had just decided that this wasn't something to exploit for their own gain. Lots of people fight issues in the courts, as you certainly know. Most of them don't become tools of party politics and the media. Keep D&D Civil!!
wait...this isn't a matter of common knowledge. this is public record. through our government's courts. brought all the way up on appeal to the United States Supreme Court, though denied writ, I believe. i certainly can understand how you'd think this was exploited by politcal parties...and i won't disagree. but as for the public's interest...this is a very compelling case with literal life/death implications for all of us, going forward. at the very least, a great cautionary tale for people to plan for the future with living wills and the like (spoken like a lawyer who has a partner who practices in the area!! ). but honestly..there are very compelling issues in this case about public policy, in general.
I'm just being idealistic. Over Easter, living wills were a hot topic, so maybe some good may come from this. My Mom, for example, declared in front of about 15 people that she, "...don't want to be kept alive by some darn machine." That's about all I can see as being good, however. Keep D&D Civil!!
Proof? Other than the linked story? Regardless, this is still HYPOCRISY. Delay understood his father would "not have wanted to live this way". For everyone else, "Congress has a legislative and moral duty to do what we can to protect her(him)." Get it? {rimshot}Not that i expect any Delay supporter to understand the concept of logical thought and responsibilty for one's actions...{/rimshot} I'm pretty sure her husband started it.
At first I thought the way that Deckard did but as this case has dragged out I agree with Mad Max that there is a compelling public interests in this as it touches on several key issues regarding, personal liberties, federalism, separation powers and even the legal definition of marriage.
Living will is the best revenge By ROBERT FRIEDMAN, Perspective Editor Published March 27, 2005 Like many of you, I have been compelled by recent events to prepare a more detailed advance directive dealing with end-of-life issues. Here's what mine says: * In the event I lapse into a persistent vegetative state, I want medical authorities to resort to extraordinary means to prolong my hellish semiexistence. Fifteen years wouldn't be long enough for me. * I want my wife and my parents to compound their misery by engaging in a bitter and protracted feud that depletes their emotions and their bank accounts. * I want my wife to ruin the rest of her life by maintaining an interminable vigil at my bedside. I'd be really jealous if she waited less than a decade to start dating again or otherwise rebuilding a semblance of a normal life. * I want my case to be turned into a circus by losers and crackpots from around the country who hope to bring meaning to their empty lives by investing the same transient emotion in me that they once reserved for Laci Peterson, Chandra Levy and that little girl who got stuck in a well. * I want those crackpots to spread vicious lies about my wife. * I want to be placed in a hospice where protesters can gather to bring further grief and disruption to the lives of dozens of dying patients and families whose stories are sadder than my own. * I want the people who attach themselves to my case because of their deep devotion to the sanctity of life to make death threats against any judges, elected officials or health care professionals who disagree with them. * I want the medical geniuses and philosopher kings who populate the Florida Legislature to ignore me for more than a decade and then turn my case into a forum for weeks of politically calculated bloviation. * I want total strangers - oily politicians, maudlin news anchors, ersatz friars and all other hangers-on - to start calling me "Bobby," as if they had known me since childhood. * I'm not insisting on this as part of my directive, but it would be nice if Congress passed a "Bobby's Law" that applied only to me and ignored the medical needs of tens of millions of other Americans without adequate health coverage. * Even if the "Bobby's Law" idea doesn't work out, I want Congress - especially all those self-described conservatives who claim to believe in "less government and more freedom" - to trample on the decisions of doctors, judges and other experts who actually know something about my case. And I want members of Congress to launch into an extended debate that gives them another excuse to avoid pesky issues such as national security and the economy. * In particular, I want House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to use my case as an opportunity to divert the country's attention from the mounting political and legal troubles stemming from his slimy misbehavior. * And I want Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to make a mockery of his Harvard medical degree by misrepresenting the details of my case in ways that might give a boost to his 2008 presidential campaign. * I want Frist and the rest of the world to judge my medical condition on the basis of a snippet of dated and demeaning videotape that should have remained private. * Because I think I would retain my sense of humor even in a persistent vegetative state, I'd want President Bush - the same guy who publicly mocked Karla Faye Tucker when signing off on her death warrant as governor of Texas - to claim he was intervening in my case because it is always best "to err on the side of life." * I want the state Department of Children and Families to step in at the last moment to take responsibility for my well-being, because nothing bad could ever happen to anyone under DCF's care. * And because Gov. Jeb Bush is the smartest and most righteous human being on the face of the Earth, I want any and all of the aforementioned directives to be disregarded if the governor happens to disagree with them. If he says he knows what's best for me, I won't be in any position to argue. link
