ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Hornets 3/25/2005

There you go, my man. Compare Yao's 1st 3 years vs the same period of any other big man of consequence except for Shaq. I'm no YOF, but run the numbers before your dumb a$$ starts ignorantly yelling "Trade Yao!!"

Hell, Gary Payton was considered a bust after hus first two years. Kobe didn't start to really click before the playoffs of his 3rd year.

 

Lately I wonder, does Yao really give a damn about what his fans are expecting of him?

Look at it in another way, have we heard Yao manifests what his short, long, and ultimate goals are? Or does he really care about winning NBA championship?

I for sure saw Shaq expressed great disappointment during his earlier NBA career after years of failure in playoffs. Yao, on the other hand, has not displayed a desire, an attitude, and a passion to achieve what we fans expect him to be.

True the sky is his limit, yet his contentment with mediocrity knows no boundary either.

 

kobe was 17 yrs old

 

HAHAHA! I totally had:

Kid: I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense. And he says that lots of times, you don't even run down court. And that you don't really try... except during the playoffs.

Jabbar (Murdock): The hell I don't. LISTEN KID. I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

... in mind when I wrote that. Love it!

 

I would agree with you if it weren't for three things:

1. JVG himself said that Yao has great work ethic and is constantly trying to improve himself.
2. Yao has said he is disappointed with his progress on multiple occasions.
3. Tim Duncan: a guy who has never shown "fire" on the court, but is a hard worker and capable of carrying a team to greatness

Just because he doesn't show emotion doesn't mean Yao is complacent.

EDIT: For the criticism-happy posters out there...I realize that Yao will never be a Tim Duncan, but I think their work ethic and personalities are similar.

 

I thought I was reading a Yao blah blah thread with all these posts about Yao instead of a game thread. In answer to the question about who is more annoying, its got to be YOHs, how quickly they forget his dominant Suns game. He was as much a reason that this team beat the NO sans McGrady as anyone.

Total team effort to take up T-Macs slack, the 10 man rotation allowed JVG to keep throwing out fresh bodies to play the energetic, smothering defense the Rox played. These injuries may have a hidden benefit, they will allow the role players like Spoon and Bowen to get some playing time to be sharp for the playoffs. Man, I like this team they find a way to win.

 

First, why does Yao start great and the he sits, then when he comes back, he seems like he's out of the offense? Second, why is james shooting so much and has what? one or two assists? Third, Yao will never be great. I don't live in houston, but can the fans in houston let him know that he's sucking up big time? Tell him if winning a nba title is not his priority, and he did say this in the past, tell him to go back so he can win his gold medal, which will never happend! tell the damn communist chinese government to let him go in the summers so he can properly get his ass in gear here in the states! and yeah, this is coming from a chinese person and a huge rockets fan in california!

 

I agree 100% with that; after a 9pt first quarter, the Rockets went away from Yao. His foul trouble (and Deke's) had something to do with that, but after one of your two stars goes out, you always ride the other one till he drops from exhaustion. Get every damned stat you can out of him.

Uhhh, ok, Senator McCarthy. Tell you what: when Communism once again becomes a big threat to the US, you can have the spotlight. Until then, the political philosophy of a player's home country has jack shìt to do with their NBA performance, ok?

In other words, until that time ... STFU.

 

BINGO!

I know it took guts for you to say, I commend you for doing so.

Somebody has to call Yao out and ask him if his priority is to win a NBA title for the Rockets or just collect paychecks.

J.

 

How great a Chinese you are.

 

I usually couldn't care less about the post like yours which throws YOH/YOF labels around at will. But just for the sake of argument, I'd like to point out the over-hyping over Yao's dominance in that Suns game. I've said it earlier in this thread and I don't mind reiterating. Many Rox fans conveniently forget Shawn Marion was absent in that game. Had he played, Yao might have been lucky to get 20-10.

 

Is this a Rockets winning thread or a Yao only thread? Really confused.

 

^ Yao only thread.

All clear now. You're welcome.

 

Back this up, prove that Yao ever said winning an NBA title wasn't a priority. Doesn't sound, smell or taste like Yao, post a link where he ever said that.

 

Yeah, he's just there to collect his paychecks. Wait, isn't he on rookie's contract? Guess the paycheck isn't very big comparing to his endorsement deals. Yeah, he doesn't care, doesn't want to win. Rudy, JVG, and Harris, all the great coaches worked, is worked with him, who said Yao has great work ethic, and leads by actions. Their words don't count. Who are they? Nobody, comparing to you, Sir, a great great fan with 22 years knowledge and love for the team, on top of that, you already had 8 posts! Desire for win or ring, doesn't need to shout out everytime you face the media. It's your utimate goal. If you want to see taunting and trash talk? You should watch wrestling, those fake great passion for the game.

 

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well he never said winning a title was not a priority thats not true at all....but i do recall him saying in an interview that winning a gold medal for china was more important

 

Typical YOH to take a game where he has a 27/22 night and say so what, someone objective would say nice game. I could care less about post like yours and I didn't forget Marion wasn't playing. I say it now, if Marion was playing, Yao would have have had a 37/25 game. Stupid of you to play what if games because the obvious isn't always inevitable like if T-Mac didn't play tonight the Rox should have lost the game. He didn't but we won the game.

 

Was it wrong? US might not care about the Olympic Gold in basketball. Ask Manu, which title meant more to him, winning with Argentina team or the Spurs. Ask Paul Gasol, ask Parker, ask any international players. Other countries don't have the luxury as NBA, who can send two all star teams to international games, that's why as the best player in their country, that Olympic Gold is almost impossible to reach, therefore more important.

 

Don't give ****, Ok? You don't know me, so stop judging me. I have stuck through him and thick with the Rockets. My only interest, unlike many other "fans", is to see the Rockets do well. And if I see player seemingly coasting while his teamates bail him out, I will call such player out.

J.