Mo T did have some of his best games against the T-Wolves. He had a rep. up here in MN as something of T-Wolf killer.
Does this mean Rod Strickland is coming back... Kidding... Forget about Mo- Empiric- be empirical- there is no evidence Mo T could help us with defending Garnet, or Antoine Walker.... Mo T is history- I do not care to speculate what would happen if he were here.... We are in a slump and we will come out of it and win 47 games
I will never miss Mo. This hindsight crap is BS. We unloaded him to the first person that would take him and I will always be grateful.
I swear. Last year, we were considering whether he'd get any consideration for 6th man of the year. This year, some of you think the guy's worthless. If you asked me, he's worth more than Moochie, Vin Baker and a couple mil spread out over a couple of years.
I don't think anyone thinks that MoT was a bad player. He would defnitely be an asset on most teams in the league. He was just vastly overpaid and was essentially a poor man's version of our starter. Getting rid of him was nothing but a good thing.
if JH still in the game, you wouldnot start this thread! a bench play with 9 million contract? for the long run, get rid of him is very very good choice, not because 2-3 games!
No doubt about it Maurice Taylor would be very useful now. The trade would not be made today with Howard injured as it is not a sure winner, like the Mike James trade. When you trade away a player like Taylor for essentially nothing this year to gain cap space you take a chance in the short run.. We will suffer till Howard comes back for this, but in the long run it was still a good move, assuming it somehow helps us fill the power forward postion, which his departure somewhat weakened. Tayor, of course, can hit the open jump shot and can be the third scorer we need, but is weak on defense and especially rebounding for a power forward.
I agree Toast! With playing time last year, he was probably the 2nd best player for 6th man (behind Jamison) consideration. Now this board thinks his talent is down near Mircan Turkan. Where are those posters, that originally thought Taylor and a first round pick was worth trading for Moochie & Baker.
I didn't like the MoT trade from the start, it definetly left us vulnearable and it bit us. Mo Taylor was not a bad player. Further, he has never been as overpayed as Jawon Howard was for a period of time. But just as now Howard is valued by fans as his salary has been equitable, if MoT was payed 2-3 mil most teams fans would be very happy to have him. I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand. 1) Mo T is a decent bench NBA four; 2) He is way overpayed; 3) He would really help us right now. I guess this is too hard for many to graps all these things are true. But it is done and time to move on. At least we got a probable low 2nd rounder and shaved off 1 year's worth of salary (that said the salary savings are overblown around here, it really is predominantly 1 year unless Baker does the Rockets a huge favor and opts out). Whether we did a smart move on this one is yet to be determined. Thank goodness Howard likely will return for the playoffs or this moved would have killed this season for sure.
He was ok, but for his salaray I dont think he was worth it. We're better off to get rid of him, even if we dont have a suitable replacement for now, and use that money towards a better fit for PF, someone who will compliment Yao more. Howard is a great interim player to have while we set up a dynasty team.
Don't take this personal as this is the 2nd thread i'm disagreeing with you in. Mo Taylor the Houston Rocket from this year was by far not the same as the Mo Taylor the Houston Rocket from last year. Last year, he was consistent and actually played like he cared. He played like he wanted to be a Rocket and played good enough to thrive in JVG's system. He wasn't doing that this year. If he would have played as good has he did last year, this year I really think CD would have been willing to swallow his albatross contract and live with some good bench production from a guy playing well but overlooking the fact that he's overpaid. With his performance this year and how bad he was playing, you can't simply overlook that anymore. After realizing it was best for both parties to part ways, he somehow found a GM willing to trade for a guy that was playing so bad. Mad props to CD on that note. Because of that, I can in no way disagree with that trade and just be happy we no longer are burdened with his contract and his underachieving play. ......and on top of that, he's not exactly lighting the world up as a Knick either.
Not personal, I'd just MUCH rather have MoT than Mooch and Vin despite the 1 year salary savings and extra 2nd rounder. Now had we traded him AFTER this offseason for the deal we got I would have been fine, because we would have been able to secure a quality back-up 4 for Howard at the same time. BTW MoT is not tearing it up in total production (the Knicks have a lot of good back-up quality 4s), but he is hitting 52% from the field for NY. That is a lot better than what we get from Spoon and Padget from the field. In fact we thought Taylor shot terrible for us (44%), but even then it was slightly better than Spoon (43%). Why we don't complain about Spoon's salary, shooting, and abuse by quality 4s on the defensive end (and not to mention his contract in relation to production), I don't know. I agree something happened with MoT/JVG. I just put a little blame for both sides not working through it for the Rockets sake.
I don't care what percentage he's shooting in the very limited minutes he's getting, the point is the guy hasn't been effective at ANY point this season. Whether its a matter of heart, eating too many cheeseburgers, smoking too much pot, drinking too much booze, going out too much, etc. something is missing in this guy's game. We got rid of him while we could, Isiah Thomas is probably kicking himself in the rear now for trading for him.
You think he misses Vin Baker and Moochie Norris? Bottom line is MoT on bad day is a better basketball player than Spoon or Padget and it has hurt our depth with him gone. We will save 10 mil in 07 and get a 2nd for it--but overall I'd rather kept MoT before the trade and know with JH's injury it really hurts. Fortunately JH will probably return, or that 10 mil we saved in 2 years and the 2nd round pick would have killed a season.
Woo hoo. Les saves 10 mil over 3 years. Rockets take on an extra waste of a roster space - 2 IL/bench players vs. 1 actual contributor. But screw that. I don't even want to argue about how much I hated that trade anymore. Fact is, if you give MoT regular minutes, he's gonna contribute. What about his tenure with the Rockets & the Clippers makes you think otherwise? Give the guy minutes and he'll make an impact on the game. I've let you guys trash his defense enough without coming back. The Rockets don't have a power forward who gets better defensive positioning than MoT. The Rockets don't have a power forward who can defend the pick-and-roll better than MoT. Those of you who claim the guards "steal" rebounds from Yao better NOT be the ones calling MoT a bad rebounder. To the rest of you, yeah, for a PF his rebounding numbers are lacking. BUT, he's a little undersized so you have to expect some of that (unless you believe he's the 2nd coming of Charles Barkley). AND that's one reason we have good rebounding guards.
The strange irony in trading away Mo was that JVG didn't like how he and Juwan were so similar in terms of their game. But who better to fill in for Juwan than a player that's exactly like him! I assume he was talking about depth, but I still find it strange.
