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J.Howard - easily replaced?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Feb 26, 2005.

  1. Two Sandwiches

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    Exactly.

    What would we have at power forward if we dealt Juwan for Artest?
     
  2. Plowman

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    Artest makes like 7 millillion/yr..If we dealt Howard and picks for Artest,then we could use our expiring contracts to acquire a PF via FA or trade.
     
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    On Sammy JBC,I would welcome him back.He makes,what, about 6 mil/yr that would come off the books?
     
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    I am surprisingly happy with Juwan. He is what he is, his drawbacks are obvious. However , on the plus side he is a dedicated, hard working, coachable full grown man. He is not a hip hop rap crap egomaniac. He has good chemistry with the team, I like the pick and roll with T-Mac, the effort to rebound.
    I want to see if Vin Baker has anything to offer. If he can do an effective large power forward role a couple of minutes a quarter, he and Juwan would be a nice pair, with Padgett as the shooter when needed. Has anybody seen Baker play during the last couple of months?
     
  5. Easy

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    I have never been a fan of Howard. But I have to acknowledge that he is still starter material in the NBA. Obviously, rebounding and defense aren't his strength. But he is a very good scorer. And his passing is underrated.

    Our problem is that Howard's skill set overlap too much with Yao's. But I'm glad that Howard's rebounding has improved lately.
     
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    Bring Badiane in next season and draft a rebounding pf in the draft, and trade Howard + cap fillers (we have a ton) for Allan Houston + a 2rd round pick. I am sure Thomas would do it. After our last trade with him, I just know.

    Or, give Sterlings a call and tell him we will trade Howard + two of our future 1st round picks + filler for Brand. According to my calculation, we will have a 34.72% chance to get it done. If it were other teams, we would have 15.25%, but with Sterlings, the chances are better and certainly worth trying.
     
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    I'd like to see that deal get done over the Summer.Even though we picked up James,I think we could benefit greatly from picking up Sam.We get rid of Howard's long conract,and pick up a guy we KNOW is going to perform in crunch time.After the season,his contract is up freeing up space.This trade would be made in conjunction with the acquisition of a decent PF.
    Sign me up
     
  9. Visagial

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    I think the Rockets should take a chance on Rice's Michael Harris. The guy could be a poor man's Barkley with the way he outrebounds guys MUCH taller than him. He's also got unbelievable touch from 15 ft in. There can't be many better players out there when we get to pick and it might be good for attendance.
     
  10. ggore

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    I would love to get Brand to replace Juwan. However, LA traded away its #1 this year and only has one other long contract (maggette). So, LA should have cap space anyway. IF that changed, that would be great because he is the guy that could make us great.
    But, on the other hand, if we were to offer Juwan as a cheaper replacement for Brand, plus picks and expiring contracts, we could hope that Sterling went brain dead for a few minutes and accepted the deal. But, it probably won't happen.

    Expiring contracts for KThomas might work to replace/pair with Juwan. Isiah could possible use a few expiring contracts next year.

    New Orleans would probably gve us a couple of 2nd round picks to take PJBrown off their hands for expiring contracts (8 mil contract that expire in 2007, but would leave their sal cap at 1 mil if he was gone).

    HOW about Zach Randolph? He has been hurt and a pain in the butt for Portland - mix in the long contract and they might deal him instead of building around him. His 10.66 mil escalates quite a bit until 2011 but he could be the muscle next to Yao. Portland has a lot of contract expire this year, but not enough to be a FA player. It will be 2007 before they can use FA, so that hinder a deal.

    Boozer - Utah has created long term cap problems for themselves with his contract - and he is not performing for them. We could probably make a deal work, but I do not want him because it would lock us in capwise and I do not think he is that good. But, if Utah would part with Kirilenko, who also has a long large contract, I would give up expiring contractgs and picks to get him - he is worth it(I would even take Boozer's contract to make it work - Boozer+Kiri=Juwan+expiring contracts).

    Detroit will be in a bad cap spot and will have to resign BWallace to a max contract after next year (no way can they let him walk). So, they maight give away some of their decent but expensive players (RWallace, McDyess) - and might even give up picks or a Milicic to help them get their cap right.

    I don't see any other PFs.
     
  11. DeAleck

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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Boozer + Kiri = Juwan + our expiring contracts
    RWallace/McDyess + picks/Darko = our expiring contracts

    I just watched the movie "Ray" tonight... I couldn't understand why Ray Charles looked the way he did in the bathroom... Now I do!
     
  12. ggore

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    you are misinterpreting the post:

    1st - detroit may part with a wallace or mcdyess to clear room for Wallace. Then, they may also offer picks or darko for teams to take other salary cap trash. It is not combined.

    2nd - Boozer's contract SUCKS in comparison to what he is worth and according to the NBA rumors Utah is aware they messed up. He is not worth what Utah gave him(11.5 mil yr through 2010). Still, he is good at what he does - rebound. He scores a little, but most of that is by accident, or should be. In a complementary role to TMAc and Yao he would do well. He would still be overpaid, but life is not perfect.
    Kiri, on the other hand, is worth his max (looks like a max) contract that runs through 2011 and would be great next to Tmac.
    The other thing for Utah - they have burned up their cap space and have realllllly long contracts - - -and they only have 19 wins so far. They should be nervous about the collection they put together (isn't Harpring their best scorer? and he comes off the bench?) and consider reshuffling the deck(I think they were trying to build a detroit type defensive team but they allow 99 a game). So, if I were running Utah, I would bail out of Boozer's contract if I could - even if it cost me another decent player.
     
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    Of course you would and so would 28 other NBA teams. But AK47 isn't going anywhere, period.

    Also, even though Boozer has a bad contract, Utah could get a whole lot more than anything we could offer.
     
  14. DeAleck

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    I guess I did misinterpret your post by simply repeating it...

    Well, my bad. After my mind's cleared, I think that's a great great idea! We get AK47 (the best shot-blocking machine in the game at 24) and Boozer (a near-20/10 machine at 23) by offering JHo (a shaving machine with $30 million contracts left at 32) + Moochie/Baker/Spoon(expiring contracts). Man, I think Utah hates Boozer's contract so bad that they might throw in a couple first rounders too. Let's give them a call!

    Boozer+Kiri=Juwan+expiring contracts

    Man, that's the best mathematical equation I've ever seen! Can u help me on this equation as well?

    (Juwan*pi/lambda)*x*Moochie != (alpha/AK47)/(Boozer*omega)?
     

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