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Van Exel wanting to play for Rockets next year????

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hottoddie, Feb 26, 2005.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I think NVE's chances of coming to Houston got VERY slim with the James deal.

    Sura/James (with Spanoulis on the way) seem to be our PG rotation for the next few years. I think FINALLY we have a solid PG rotation and have it set.

    NVE's scoring could be pretty good as a scorer off the bench, but his defense is REALLY slipping these days and I think that is one thing that REALLY hurts his chances here in Houston. JVG would take James over NVE anyday.
     
  2. arno_ed

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    i do not want Nick the Brick. i never liked him. and he is getting old.
     
  3. armada

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    It is intended to insult Yao. :mad:
    There are so many GMs who watch for the opportunity to give Yao a max contract. CD will not risk Yao's leaving. BTW, Yao's max contract is not so big comparing with T-mac's.

    You're kidding or a Faker's fan.
     
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    People are out making the guy sound like he's a player that needs shots to be effective. Just go to his career numbers and look at his ridiculous assist to turnover numbers. The guy is a dependable playmaker as well as a scorer.

    If he wants to be here for cheap, why not? He could be a solid rotation player and a spark off of the bench.
     
  5. danielf

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    That is the kind of non-rational human factor I was talking about.

    Michael Jordan was underpaid (in salary) for many years. Perhaps that is one reason he won quite so many rings....

    Yao will surely be the highest earning member of the team even if he is paid half what he is entitled to by the Rockets.

    Rings = MONEY.

    especially for Yao.
     
  6. sonique15

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    id take him for the veterans min.
     
  7. tim562

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    Nick the Brick was Nick Anderson, not Nick Van Excel....and we all know why he was Nick the Brick
     
  8. armada

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    I hope CD is not as irrational as you. :rolleyes:

    Everybody knows Yao's salary is only a small part of his earning. But underpaying Yao means he is dispensable in this team and may be a good trade bait someday. It's not just a money matter, instead an attitude affair. Never underpay your core-player unless you like to see his leaving.

    I'm not sure MJ was underpaid in Bulls, though I know he took a veteran min in Wizards. How many core-player were underpaid? Did CD underpay T-mac? Why does Yao?

    Underpaying =/= Rings (e.g. Karla, etc.)
    Yao underrated(in salary) in Rox would go to the Lakers(Mark my words). He would get a max contract and might have a better opportunity to win the rings. I don't want a Houston Magics.
     
  9. MONON

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    I think that should be "sy gen" (I don't know how to spell it though).
     
  10. armada

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    Yup. It sounds like that.
    "zai jian" (according to Chinese spelling)
     
  11. arno_ed

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    for me both are. I'm glad Anderson was it:D:D.
    but i just do not like van Exel. He shoots to much, and he is old.
     
  12. vwiggin

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    This is how it works. We offer Yao the max, but he will voluntarily take less money to allow a top-tier power forward to join the rox.

    Yao is the type of player who would take less pay for the good of the team. It is the asian way. :)

    However, he has to be offered the max as a sign of respect. Don't worry about Yao's bottom line either; if the Rox win the championship, Yao will make up the difference in the extra endorsement deals.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    One of the factors is that Nick has a home in Houston. He did alright playing a deferred role in Dallas and peaking during playoffs. I think he'd be a servicable backup but if he starts, then that is no fault of his own....
     
  14. ty185

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    danielf, when talking about rational economic behaviour, you might want to consider that any stable long term rational decision should be based on MUTUAL beneficial relationships.

    would yao earn more if he wins championships? sure. but the problems is, if he bolts to another team offering max, it's not like he surely won't be winning a championship in NBA anymore. and because of this, the "persuasion for signing less than max" can be hard to perceive as a good enough MUTUAL beneficial situation IMO.

    I could see the scenario you mention work in some special circumstances -- namely, if KG or TD gets traded for scotty the body to houston, which makes rox the next championship teams in the next 10 years. Then, yao taking a bit less than max would make sense.

    but unless those situation arises, you don't try to low ball one of your core players and show everyone in the world that the strategy you have in mind is to give every Melvin Caylor a max contract and then take advantage of Yao's personality because he is a "nice" guy.

    that would be a complete confidence and chemistry shatterer.
     

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