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  1. Clutch

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    I was trying to find CNN.com's website but didn't know how to find it. Took me a while but I did a search for CNN.COM and it eventually came up.

    Anyhow, I voted in this poll above. I voted NO, and even though NO is leading by 58% of nearly 150,000 votes, I'm scared it took my vote as YES!!! Help!

    I mean there is so much space between the hole to punch and the answers that it takes a diehard Republican to understand.... can someone please make sure I punched the right one?

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  2. Jeff

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    Very funny. Clutch, you know I love you, man, but would you honestly disagree if Bush was the one behind? Would you still think there shouldn't be a re-vote if you thought your candidate would win in a re-vote? Be honest now! [​IMG]

    I think a re-vote is too wierd, myself, even though I would prefer Gore to Bush. It sets an uneasy precident.

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    LOL @ CLutch

    Jeff,
    I will swear on the Holy Bible that I would say the same things if Bush was doing what Gore is doing.
    I have NO problems with the recount. Non whatsoever. Where my problem lies is the talk of The 19,000 ballots being thrown out being rare. When in 1996 15,000 ballots were thrown out in the SAME county due to double punching. AND in 1996 Buchanan got more votes there then he did now. AND this year there is a Growing number of Independant and Reform registered Voters in the county.
    Just because we see it on TV doesnt make it true. We see the whiners that wanted Gore to win. Why havent we seen any Republican on TV on the streets?
    We also see Jesse Jackson, whom I despise and am starting to dislike him even more, playing up to the cameras. AND Actually BREEDING hatred in that area. Jackson is NOTHING like Martin Luther King. Jackson is a greedy man, and gets on TV by DIVIDING people, not by uniting like King.

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    I saw that one coming!

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    How old are you Clutch, plus 60 with poor eye sight?????
    I don't think so and were those choices you had in that poll staggered with two columns no........

    Bush would do exactly the same thing if it was the other way round.

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  7. DUDE

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    No problem with Recounting the votes. BUt a BIG problem with the talk of Gore winning the popular vote, with Gore talking as they won Florida but were screwed over, etc..

    If Bush wins the election, there is NO doubt that the BS, and divisiveness being shown by Gore and the Dems of Florida will HURT the country. We will have 50% of the people that NO matter what Bush does will hate him. If Gore would just go with the Votes then Bush would have a chance to win some of those people over. But thanks to Gore, that aint gonna happen. He is gonna fight it to he dies, and that does ABSOLUTELY no good for the country, domestically AND Abroad.

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    Well Clutch, if that poll was illegally made then yeah, you'd have a case.

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  9. Jeff

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    So, DUDE, let me get this straight. You are suggesting that Gore should just give it up and Bush will win over all those people who didn't vote for him, however, if Gore actually wins the election, that Bush and his people are simply going to let it go for the good of the country?

    You cannot be serious.

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  10. outlaw

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    DUDE, please stop claiming you are non-partisan. it's not working.
     
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    I think there is enough gray area in the voting practices of Florida to fight over. Gore has been waiting for this all his life, I don't blame him for wanting to fight it. If he lost 55-45 w/o any controversies, he would give up. Heck, when he was losing by a few thousand votes he conceded.

    I think the leader of the free world position is something you HAVE to fight over if you think you've been cheated.

    If Gore loses this recount and there is no tainted evidence (19,00 votes thrown out), then he would congratulate Bush and tell the country to get behind him. I assume Bush would do the same.


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    Jeff,

    What I am saying is this... Whoever wins Florida WINS the White House.
    If Gore wins the COUNTED votes, plus the absentee then YES he wins,
    Same with Bush. If he wins the Counted votes, plus the absentee then he wins.

    My whole thinking, and I do not think I am alone, is that IF Bush wins the Florida vote count AND Gore complains about the racism or bad ballot or whatever they are complaining about then it DOES hurt the country. You cant honestly say that it wont Undermine Bush if he gets elected. If he gets it he will be under AMAZING pressure, and intense scrutiny.

    Now, if Gore wins then Bush should concede.

    All I want is the accurate count of the valid ballots, the man with the most wins.

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    LOL Clutch. Cmon man that is pretty low.


    I guess if you cant decide which one you could always follow the law of your state which states.

    1. Punch holes are to be to the right of your candidate

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    2. No has to be the second hole that is punchable, not the third option behind the second hole of "MAYBE"

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  14. DUDE

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    Grt8-1,

    The 19,000 ballots were thrown out and do not count. In 1996 15,000 ballots were thrown out in the SAME county due to double punching. It is not a new problem. RIght on the TOP of the ballot it says something like 'MARK ONLY ONE CHOICE. IF TWO ARE CHOSEN BALLOT WILL BE DISREGARDED'
    The BEST thing for America, is for WHOEVER that loses the vote, plus the absentee concede.
    But if GORE keeps this up, you just watch as Bush will want to recount three or four smaller states that were incredibly close.
    Like I said, I am for Bush 100%, but what is going on in the Gore campaign (bickering, complaining, 'We won the popular vote, he didnt') All that is BAD BAD BAD for the USA both here and world-wide

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  15. Jeff

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    That's fair. I think, no matter who wins, their presidency is screwed.

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  16. Jeff

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    DUDE: One thing, however, about those thrown out votes...

    Wouldn't you rather that the will of the people is served? Yes, it has happened before but the presidency wasn't at stake. That is far more important.

    I still don't know about the re-vote, but we are entering unprecendented territory here and I think we should all keep open minds on this issue.

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    I agree Dude. But, you will admit that of the double punches, many of those would probably have gone to Gore ? I mean, I guess Gore supporters simply aren't as sharp. I'm not saying they should be able to revote, but I think stupid people's voices should be heard also.



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    Shouldn't that have been president [​IMG]



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    Funny. Like RM95 said, get back to us when it's illegal. [​IMG]

    And as has been mentioned, I seriously seriously doubt any one of you would be okay not to revote when it would win Bush the election. Have to look at it from both perspectives.

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    Jeff,
    As mean as this might sound, the people that voted for TWO people DISCOUNTED their own ballot when they did that. On the ballot is says PICK ONE. Because someone messed up on their ballot doesnt mean a conspiracy, like Jackson is saying, or that we should let them revote.
    When you vote for federal office, you can have up to two SPOILED ballots. That means that if you screwed up you can get another one, and then Another one. For the people to think that their vote would count by Punching TWO candidates is just insane. That should be more of the focus and not that their vote was thrown away, because they did it themselves.

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