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Who Else Thinks the Election Process Sucks?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Jeff, Nov 9, 2000.

  1. Jeff

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    If this whole thing hasn't demonstrated to everyone that the voting process is confusing at best and screwed up at worst, I don't know what will.

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  2. DUDE

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    I still think we need some sort of Electoral college. Just take a look at the picture in USA TODAY. It showed, by color, who carried what counties throughout the US. Bush won handily, it seemed.
    If we just go Popular Vote, then MUCH of the US would be left out of the voting process, because the candidates will just focus on HUGE states.

    That said, I think that for local elections you should use whatever ballot that county wants. BUT for a Federal election we should have a Uniform ballot Nationwide. And I believe in four years we should be able to put the ballot on a TV screen, where you are able to push a button on the screen to indicate your vote. That vote would AUTOMATICALLY be counted and logged in right away. That way, we have NO problems at all with what is going on in Florida.

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  3. SmeggySmeg

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    compulsory voting would be one solution Jeff.

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  4. Puedlfor

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    Much of the USA was left out of the campaigning. Where were the candidates in Texas, the second most populous state? Who gives a rat's ass about Oregon when you can go campaign in California? Why worry about Minnesota when Michigan is a short trip away?

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    Again, there's two sides to everything. I personally think more of the US would be involved in the voting process. Do you know in many people's minds how almost meaningless it is to cast a vote for Gore in Texas, knowing that Bush will carry the state anyway? There aren't a lot of states that are toss-ups come election day, so you see a lot of people just not even vote because they know their candidate doesn't have a chance at their state, and popular vote doesn't matter.

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    I always thought the Electoral College was a terrible way to decide who wins the Presidency and this whole debacle just reaffirms that stance with me.

    I don't think that the candidates would just focus on the large states any more than they already do. Even if they did focus on states like NY, TX and CA more than others, so what...both candidates would still be battling it out. I'm just ready for all of this to be over.

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  7. outlaw

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    Your touch screen idea would make things a lot faster but computers make errors and it would compromise the secret ballot principle.
     
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    Computers only make errors when programmed that way. LMAO

    The only two bad things I can think about a touch screen is the secret ballot principle and SOMEHOW SOMEONE MIGHT be able to hack it. But if you have representatives of all parties there you can count the vote as it goes on, and log it to where it Cant be hacked.

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  9. Jeff

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    DUDE: The touch screen is a terrific idea. That thought came to me earlier this year. Think of it. You could even allow the League of Women Voters to put their little two-sentence thing below each candidate for clarification.

    Also, I'm all for a voter holiday. In most countries, voting day is sacred and all businesses close. To me, that is a valid and feasible way to get more people to the polls.

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  10. ChrisP

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    I like the voter holiday idea. I've always thought it was pretty dumb to have elections on a Tuesday during business hours.

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    Computers would never work because there is always a smarter hacker.

    I do like the holiday idea,also I think the results should be kept until all of the polls in the USA have closed also get rid of those damm exit polls !

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  12. outlaw

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    Bush would make "Jesus Day" a national holiday before making election day one.
     
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    Yeah, presidents have full authority over national holidays. I personally find what you said offensive outlaw. If you want to be respected, you need to show some yourself. Or shall we start talking about Gore and "Gay Day"?

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    How on earth did I post three times? Four now.

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    Traj, you do know that Bush proclaimed a "Jesus Day" as Texas governor?
     
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    outlaw

    I guess I missed that. Sorry, your "tone" just sounded harsh.

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    outlaw

    I guess I missed that. Sorry about that, your "tone" just sounded harsh. "Jesus Day" just sounds very irreverent to me; certainly when you perceive it being used sarcastically.

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    Okay, I did it again. I don't know how.

    I was going to edit my message put this in, but I guess I'll just put it here. My apologies outlaw.

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