Launch Pad said, "I think what sets the 2 candidates apart is that Bush tries to act morally superior and more in touch with the people (neither of which is true). Furthermore, and more importantly, he's an idiot whose based his entire career, business and political, off the influence of his father." Actually, I think both candidates have tried to act morally superior and more in touch with the people. Both have also lived off the influence of their fathers. IN OTHER WORDS, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IDEOLOGIES, AS ALWAYS. THAT IS REALLY ALL ANY OF US CARE ABOUT. THE REST IS A CONVENIENT WAY TO BASH THE GUY WITH WHOM WE DISAGREE PHILOSOPHICALLY. ------------------
I heard on the news that Dubya was called for jury duty in a drunk driving case here in Austin four years ago. The lawyer who asked for him to be excused apparantly knew about his drunk driving record and was later appointed a judgeship by Bush. Niiiiice. ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
i don't recall hearing anything about interns or dope but Rudy was arrested for DUI... As for if Gore leaked this story or not, who cares? I think the issue is important and fair to discuss. Don't dish out the dirt if you can't take it.
Rocketman, if you were being sarcastic I think you did a poor job of coming off in that way. It did not look like sarcasm to me. May be I am beyond help too, or you could try a smilie ------------------ Go Rockets and Comets! Stay in Houston!
Man, this is ugly. Presidential elections are so benign from the standpoint of having a real effect on our lives. The elections no one cares about (school boards, water boards, local judges and maybe city council/county commissioners) are the one's that go largely ignored while the big fight over the presidency is largely style rather than substance. We are a society of tweeners constantly walking the fence between liberal and conservative. There is nothing wrong with that. Hell, even Buddha knew that the middle way was the path to enlightenment. I just think that the really important battles over issues are not fought in the national arena. They are fought on the local stage where changes can have a direct effect on our lives. The environment, healthcare and education are three of the most crucial issues in the national elections and, yet, they are the issues that are fundamentally addressed at the local governmental level. Instead of all this bickering over which body will sleep in the Lincoln bedroom, shouldn't we be more concerned about who is taking bribes at city hall or which school board wants to ban books from public school libraries? Shouldn't we be more focused on pollution in our own cities and taking care of those less fortunate on corners near our home? You don't solve national problems from the country down to the home. You start at home and work outward. First, it's your block, then your neighborhood, then your precinct, then your part of town, then your city, then your county, then the region of your state, then your state, then the region of your country, then your country, then your continent, then your world. It is easy to complain about Bush, Gore, Nader, Buchanan or Browne, but how many of us can name our school board members? How about 1 water board member? The famous environmental slogan, "Think globally. Act locally," is absolutely true. It works. ------------------ Save Our Rockets and Comets SaveOurRockets.com
Damn Jeff. Great post! ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
Wow. Look at this thread. If a squad car pulled up with a blind-rage breathalyzer, we'd all be busted for Posting While Intoxicated.
Who gives a flying duck? Let me state my affiliation before I state my opinion. I am NOT VOTING. My vote doesn't matter here because I either have to vote for an idiot or a guy who is actually blowing the election because of his arrogance and not accepting the help of a president with the highest approval rating since FDR. Now, who cares about this? Bush is gonna win whether he told or not. This is irrelavant to the election. And why should Bush lose for this when he is winning DESPITE his lack of knowledge on the issues and his extremely poor record in Texas. So, who cares? Politics is such BS that its sickening to watch. One good thing about this election and the low voter turn out? Well, I really, really think that a third party candidate will win a Presidential election before 2008. And when we get more diversification, I might then use my precious one vote on a worthy candidate. ------------------
I think Brian is working Achebe. Not all of us get $200,000 for working 5 months out of the year, know what I mean? Sounds awfully familiar... almost like, "you never had sex with that woman. She had sex with you." Typical RM95 response. Make those who think this was done out of hate out to look like racists. Nice job. One thing you are right about is my hatred for Al Gore. It's so strong it has made me one who hopes highly Bush wins and I'm not exactly "in love" with George W. Bush being president. Why I back DUDE's comments so much is seeing Gore, who by all estimations is trailing by just a bit, try to scare people into voting for him by smearing Bush so much -- that just makes me even more sick about the guy. I mean this is a guy who basically pulled an illegal money-laundering scheme at the Buddhist monastery and lied about it, claiming it abided by all campaign fundraising laws. Then lied again, saying he had no idea it was raising money. And when it was mentioned in the debate Gore tried to get on his high horse refusing to character attack as Bush was doing. Huh? Right. We're comparing lies and corruption in office in the past few years to George Bush driving home after a few beers 24 years ago? He's always said he's made mistakes in the past and used to drink, but not even his daughters knew this. Could it be because it was embarrassing personally? And people are saying he lied and is a hypocrit? They're desperate at Gore's place.... mudslinging, political spins and hell, some are even resorting to "vote-swapping" to get Gore in office... good luck. You're going to need it. ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET [This message has been edited by Clutch (edited November 03, 2000).]
I just love the hypocrisy and double standards in politics. We, the people of the US, whom a large portion of us have probably smoked a joint here or there, who have probably all gotten a bit tipsy and maybe gotten behind the wheel when we should not have, who have engaged in sexual encounters outside of our marriages or relationships, expect our politicians to be perfect people...or we expect them to have their skeletons locked permanently in the closet so we may never hear of their imperfections. It is quite comical actually. Gore is a professional politician, and acts as such. Bush is, to an extent, the same thing. I am not going to vote for either. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils, I would pick Bush. At any rate, vote Tomjanovich for president. Besides, I have never heard anything about Rudy smoking dope, driving under the influence, or sleeping with interns. ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." [This message has been edited by HOOP-T (edited November 03, 2000).]
So, since someone lied out of office, they should be given a position in office? Al didn't have a chance to lie before he went into office, he actually showed up to serve, and wasn't hanging out dealing with cocaine abuse and alcoholism. p.s. was there a 'controlling legal authority' about drunk driving, or any of the other things that Bush did as a 'troubled youth' at the oh so young age of 30? ------------------ "Everyone I know has a big but... come on Simone, let's talk about your but."
Wow, I don't recall ever calling you a racist. You agreed with a ridiculous assessment that bringing out a 24 year-old drunk driving charge was the same as dragging someone behind a truck because of his or her race. I never called you a racist (funny how that's the first thing I always hear Republicans say when race is even brought up, "I'm not a racist" Chill the hell out, I never called you one). It's not my fault you think this is equivalent to a hate crime. I just can't believe that anyone would believe that this is something that only Democrats do. Clinton's been a draft-dodging pot smoker ever since 1991, but that's OK I guess. Could you also get over Achebe's salary? ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
I'm just pissed they don't have a picture of him driving while talking on a cell phone. We'd have TheFreak's vote for sure. ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
Your logic is astounding Achebe. You should get paid more. ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
I love this. Gore-haters have been bringing this up for a few years now, yet no wrong-doing has ever been proven. Not even enough evidence to warrant an investigation. And before you say it was Clinton's Janet Reno who didn't feel any need for an investigation, remember she's the one that allowed Kenneth Starr's office to pursue the Lewinsky story. Not exactly sticking by her puppetmaster huh? ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
Nope, you're fine. I didn't expect him to not jump to conclusions. Difference between RM95 and myself is I despise Al Gore. He despises all Republicans. OJ is innocent too. ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
I don't despise all Republicans, just most of them! Hell, I even voted for Kay Bailey Hutchinson, both in 1994 and 2000. You can believe what you want about Gore and the fundraising stuff. But please don't tell me that you think he's the only one that does any of this stuff. Not that it makes it OK, if in fact he is "guilty" of all you claim, but he sure as hell ain't the only one. BTW, I never called you a racist, nor did I intend to. ------------------ "Priorities is our values"-Dubya at campaign stop in San Jose on 11/1/00 visit www.swirve.com
Jeff I'd truly like to meet you! I think we would be great friends! I do love Houston, and I'm gonna get slammed for this, but thats one of the reasons why I don't live there anymore. People like to cut down New York. But I can truly say that, be it ever so crumbled, it really has a conscious about community. I'm not saying Houston doesn’t. Its just different, in the sense that people in a weird way, do seem to look out after each other a little more. You'd be surprised. As TraJ said, maybe it is a difference in Ideology; Houston seems to be a more of a Republican town and New York being very Democratic. And by the way, I don't know about anyone else, but I could never be elected president. ------------------ 'Deeds, not words, shall speak me.'
