The fact that Wade never shoots 3s is a positive imo. Why go for a 3 when you can take it in and get a higher percentage shot? Also, he shot 47% without Shaq last year, so the Shaq factor is overrated.
Because if you shoot for 3, you score more points on a made attempt? You'd agree with me, I'm sure, that a guy who shoots nothing but 3s and hits 50% is more impressive than a guy who shoots nothing but 2s (Wade) and hits 50%. If you adjust FG% by adding in the extra points gained by hitting 3s, you give a more clear indication of the points scored per shot attempt by a player. For example, Tracy McGrady (43% shooting overall) comes close to matching Wade's 49% if you consider the impact of all his made 3s. Francis on the other hand doesn't have enough 3s to make up the difference.
maybe I''m crazy, but, maybe would should wait until Wade's played at least 5 years for this comparison.......just me.
true and i thought someone might point that out but i would rather have consistent scoring with 2s then less frequent scoring with 3s. granted four 3-pointers = six 2-pointers, but I would rather have the six 2-pointers because it means the player/team are scoring more often. also, steve shoots 29% from three which I don't think matches up to Wade's FG% even accounting for points per shot.
I know I already weighed in but anyway... Francis is good enough and dominant enough to carry a team, but probably can't carry one to the championship. Wade isn't dominant enough to carry a team, but he is good enough to be the number two guy, quite possibly on a championship calibur team. If we were judging by the individual player I guess that would make Francis the better player, but it might mean that Wade is the better addition to a team.
In the NBA, if you don't have 3 point shooters, then you don't score 2 pointers! Basic fact is that there are so many long and athletic guys out there who can "shut down" the key area and swarm the inside. If you don't have some players who can stretch the defence then it becomes much more difficult to score consistently! Look at Denver this year - they lost their "stretcher" (Lenard) and haven't really looked any chance of making the playoffs - despite adding "2 point" scoring over the off-season! Worth considering that a 33% 3pt shooter is effectively the same as a 50% 2 point shooter... But I also agree with your point that it is better to be consistently scoring points - gives the feel that they are on a roll!
Sure, I agree that Francis' 3s don't make up for the disparity. Not close. There are other factors too, in favor or 2s. Offensive rebounds, avoiding the long defensive rebounds that lead to fast breaks, greater chance to draw fouls by going to the hoop, etc. Ideally I'd like a guy who has the range to shoot the 3, to keep the defense honest, but takes the higher-percentage shot inside.
i agree that you need 3 point shooters and that the paint gets shut down. but i was also trying to state that since steve only shoots 29% from 3pt. land that he's not as effective as wade and his near 50% fg%. i also think that wade is arguably the best finishing guard in the league. while wade would be better if he could hit the 3 consistently, i also think it's great how he takes it to the hoop. so many guys now rely on the outside shot when they are likely to either go to the FT line or get a high % shot if they go to the hoop.
More of what exactly? That has got to be the biggest joke of the month. I am not even going to touch that. Francis is NOT is DWade's league - maybe is the discourse centers around Marbury but Wade? uh uh........I hope you do not say such in public.
From what i've seen of wade so far.. about 10 games or so (including last year) he seems to be the better player. Francis has more range but Wade still has time to extend his range. Wade doesn't need the range at this point in his career since he can get to hoop whenever he wants and make something happen. I dont see as many bone headed plays by wade as I see in francis.. but then again I've seen 350+ games of francis and ~10 of wade.
Wade is bigger, stronger, just as athletic (has less vert but that's about it), and smarter. He also has bigger hands that let's him do more around the basket. I'd bet every GM would take Wade over Francis including Orlando.
Wade does not have a shot as of yet. However, dude has an amazing abilibity to penetrate the lane to draw fouls. Great player but I am afraid that he is just one injury away from becoming a role player. A guard with no outside shooting touch rarely dominates the league.
Wade may not have an outside shot but many times he penetrates not looking for the shot but looking to get his teammate shots. He is the ulimate penetrate and kick guard. He seems to find the cracks and seams to get to the hole and kick out to his open shooters. Jason kidd has no outside shot but he's been one of the top PGs for quite some time. Wade may not have the same vision but he's more than effective at getting to the hole than Kidd with his speed and explosiveness. That may change with age but he seems the type to adjust.
I am glad Francis is doing well in Orlando. I was never a big fan. He may yet reach his potential. But, Wade is very impressive. He seems to play more under control. He is tougher to guard. Francis' shot seems to be improving though.
I think Francis has a small (very small) edge right now but in a season or two Wade will be a much better player. I can see Wade as the best PG in the league in 2 seasons.
