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[AP] $250,000 military death benefit proposed

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  1. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    $250,000 military death benefit proposed
    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON — President Bush will propose a dramatic increase to $250,000 in government payments to families of U.S. troops killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and in future combat zones.

    The plan to increase the tax-free "death gratuity," now $12,420, to $100,000 and provide an extra $150,000 in life insurance payouts will be part the 2006 budget proposal submitted to Congress next week, the Pentagon's personnel chief said in an Associated Press interview. Veterans groups and many in Congress have been pushing for such increases.

    "We think the nation ought to make a larger one-time payment, quite apart from insurance, should you be killed in a combat area of operations," David Chu, the undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, said in the interview in his Pentagon office.

    "We can never in any program give someone back their loved one," he added. "There is nothing we can do about the hurt, to make it go away. But we can make your circumstances reasonable, in terms of finances."

    Chu is to unveil the administration's full proposal in congressional testimony Tuesday.

    Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., who is sponsoring a bill with the same provisions, said in an interview that the first-year budget cost of the increased benefits would be $459 million, including more than $280 million in retroactive payments of the higher gratuity and the extra life insurance settlements.

    "The American people want to be generous to the families of service people who give their lives for their country. It's not a nickel-and-dime issue," he said.

    In addition to the higher gratuity, the Pentagon would substantially increase life insurance benefits, Chu said. The current $250,000 coverage offered to all service members at a subsidized rate under the Servicemen's Group Life Insurance program would be raised to $400,000, and for troops in a combat zone the government would pay the premiums on the extra $150,000 coverage.

    Even in the case of a service member who did not participate in the basic life insurance program, the surviving spouse would receive a $150,000 settlement if the death happened in a designated combat zone, since the Pentagon is proposing to pay the premiums on that amount of coverage for everyone in a war zone. The spouse or other surviving family member also would get the $100,000 gratuity.

    Chu said that the extra $150,000 in life insurance and the higher death gratuity would be retroactive to Oct. 7, 2001, the date the United States launched its invasion of Afghanistan in response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

    Some bills in Congress would make the higher gratuity retroactive but not the extra life insurance.

    Under the administration's proposal, the 53 military members who were killed in the Sept. 11 attack on the Pentagon would not get the higher gratuity, a spokeswoman said.

    As of today, 1,415 Americans had died in the Iraq war, according to the Pentagon's count, and 156 had died in Afghanistan and other locations deemed part of the war on terrorism.

    The death gratuity is a one-time payment intended to be given to the family immediately after a service member's death; it is separate from an array of other survivor benefits such as housing aid.

    The $100,000 would apply only in cases where the service member died in a war zone as designated by the secretary of defense. Thus a soldier killed in a training accident in the United States would get the current $12,420, Chu said. Some in Congress have proposed paying an increased gratuity for all deaths.

    In the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, defense officials decided that the current death payment for troops killed in battle was too little, particularly in light of settlements paid to Sept. 11 families. The government paid an average $2.1 million to the families of those killed in those attacks.

    In 2003 the military gratuity was doubled, from $6,000, where it had stood since 1991, to $12,000, with subsequent increases to account for inflation, bringing it to $12,420 on Jan. 1, 2005. The 2003 legislation also made the payment fully tax-free. Before that, half was taxable.

    Lawmakers in both the House and Senate have introduced bills to raise both the gratuity and the life insurance coverage, reflecting a broader trend of more generous military benefit programs, including financial benefits for military retirees, their survivors and families of those killed in battle.

    These changes are adding billions to defense budgets and raising questions about whether increasingly costly entitlements are forcing the Pentagon to forgo some investments in weapons programs.

    Chu said he was concerned that in recent years Congress had gone too far in expanding military retiree benefits, but he said the proposed increase in survivor benefits was well justified.

    Bigger military benefits that apply mainly to retirees and their families are making it harder for the Pentagon to afford financial incentives targeted at maintaining today's military, Chu said.

    "They are starting to crowd out two things: first, our ability to reward the person who is bearing the burden right now in Iraq or Afghanistan," Chu said. "(Second), we are undercutting our ability to finance the new gear that is going to make that military person successful five, ten, 15 years from now."

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    Maybe Bush does care about the troops.
     
  2. Deckard

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    Good news, and past time to do it by many, many years. I disagree with Chu about Vet benefits, however, very strongly. You can't give these people enough. I'm glad that a light bulb went off in Bush's head at last. Some previous Presidents could have used the same light bulb.

    Let's hope Congress approves it, ASAP.


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  3. calurker

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    It's hard to argue with this proposal, but if heavens forbid this turns into another Vietnam, we'd be looking at a $100B++ price tag. But perhaps having future administrations think long and hard about the price tag of wars, in concrete dollars, is a GOOD thing....
     
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    very good to hear, especially the retroactive part.


    and 9/11 families got $2.1 million!
     
  5. wizkid83

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    Good thing, I agree with it, not sure if I'm willing to pay for it ;).
     
  6. glynch

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    ABC News had a story last week about the families trying to shame the Bushies into it. I guess they couldn't deny it any longer so they pretend it was their idea.;)

    Too bad they could have used that moolah for some nice Carlyle Group profits. Maybe another juicy weapons contract. Oh well, sometime you just have to compromise and give out some welfare to keep the peons happy.
     
  7. synergy

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    I don't like the proposal. Remember the troops VOLUNTEERED to go to Iraq....
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    I wonder if it will be retroactive to World War II......
     
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    I think 3x your salary is the standard benefit. So this is probably not that far from what they should be getting. I think the salaries are low to start because they get a free home on base. Not sure. But it's a reasonable benefit for a family getting smacked in the face. That's a lot of picking up the pieces and the money will do some good.
     
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    Is there any news item which glynch wouldn't use to bash Bush?
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Oski2005

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    That's nice, but my concern has always been about the wounded vets and their benefits. Still, I never knew families of dead soldiers could only get 12 grand.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    People keep comparing this to the 9-11 families, but that's different - that was a legal settlement which bought off the rights the families would have had to sue the airlines, building owners, cities, etc - and would have clogged up the courts and cost hundreds of millions and bankrupted the airlines and the WTC firms and essentially made the tragedy that much worse.

    That's just the "death gratuity", I believe they also get a decent sized government sponsored life insurance benefit as well.
     
  13. mc mark

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    bull****! If you're in the military, if you're killed training on a base in Virginia, if a military plane goes down in Texas, you should get the benefit!

    So would someone killed by friendly fire receive the benefit?

    Would Tillman be denied the benefit?
     
  14. Oski2005

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    Tillman was in a war zone though, so I think his family would still get it.
     
  15. Deckard

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    This was sarcasm, right? Please tell me my "detector" is in need of a tuneup.




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