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advice for house training a dog

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  1. robbie380

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    ok we got this cairn terrier like 2 weeks ago and i need some advice on house training him. we live in an apartment complex so we have to go outside and walk him. we have tried to make sure everytime we let him out of his pen area that we take him out. but it is so annoying when we let him out and he doesn't give any sort of sign that he needs to go to the bathroom like last night. i get home and i let him out of his pen and i was sitting on my bed. he is sitting up there with me and i start fixing my bed and he just starts peeing there. right in front of me. oh man i was mad. so i just threw him back in his pen for the rest of the night.

    everytime he does go to the bathroom in the apartment we make sure to lock him up and take him out after we lock him up. he usually pees outside right after we take him out. but here is the other problem...it take him forever to poo. he just wanders around and we will be out there for like 10-15 min. then once we come back in he will poo inside. man it is so annoying.

    any advice?


    disclaimer....for you people who will come in and say google it i already have.
     
  2. robbie380

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    oh yeah i have also tried to lay out those potty pads but i think he only accidently goes to the bathroom on them. i've tried to reinforce his good bathroom behavior by giving him treats too but nothing really seems to be working.

    also he is 9 months old.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Have you rubbed his nose in the pee/poop when he does it inside?
     
  4. 4chuckie

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    Reinforce good behavior with treats.

    Take the dog outside and when he goes to the bathroom give him a treat and generally talk to him in the high pitched voice to let him know he's a good boy.

    Biggest thing is to take him out as much as possible (once an hour) but only give him a treat when he does hs business. He'll figure it out after awhile.

    Hopefully reinforcing good behavior will pay off! Good luck!
     
  5. Surfguy

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    Question, when your dog goes outside and does actually defecate, do you praise it and do you talk to it? When I potty trained my Ridgebacks, I gave them a large amount of praise after they did the deed outside while petting them "GOOD GIRL!". I also used the words "GO DO IT!" while they were doing the deed over and over till they learned to associate going to the bathroom with these words. Then, whenever I took them outside from their crate(or inside), I would say the words and they did the rest. If they did the deed inside, I would punish them by grabbing their scruff(back of their neck) giving a little tug(so they will associate going to the bathroom inside with a negative action) while saying "NO!"(just get a little "yelp" out of the dog but don't hurt it). I would also try to intervene during or right after the act itself because they won't know what the hell I'm doing/talking about if I am too late to intervene.

    I dunno if any of that can help you but it worked for me. Somehow, your dog has to learn that doing it correctly outside is positive and doing it inside anywhere is negative. Also, look for subtle actions keying you into the dog getting ready to defecate. It may start smelling around. It may seem kind of hyper. It may exhibit a different action than normal. You may not be giving the dog enough positive reinforcement outside when it does it right and giving a negative consequence if it does it inside. It's needs to give up what it knows for 9 months now and re-learn the right way.

    But, I'm not a dog trainer and dogs can be a pain in the ass so... .
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    I'm about to train my roommates dog by taking it to the SPCA. She's done $100 worth of damage this week alone and he just doesn't seem to give a ****. :mad:
     
  7. Phreak3

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    I had the exact same problem with my miniature dachsund. When I first got her, she would just pee/poo anywhere inside and at all different times. I never could really get her to remember to go to the bathroom on a pee pad by herself. What I did was just try to remember the different times she needs to go to the bathroom (eventually, it'll become regular - like once in the morning, once at noon, and twice during the evening). During these times, I'll take her to the pee pad and just wait there until she goes to the bathroom. I'll also continuously say "Pee! Pee!" so she'll associate that command with going to the bathroom.

    After a year, she eventually got it. Now, when she's on the pee pad, I only have to say "pee" once, and she'll go.
     
  8. VooDooPope

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    My dogs only vice is trash. She loves the trash like a crack head likes the rock.

    If I could fix that problem she would be the perfect dog.

    Take the dog to obedience training if you can afford it.
     
  9. arno_ed

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    this is actually very common. Alot of pupy's do nothing outside, and when they get inside they pee. This is because they are not relaxed outside, and they want to explore there, and when they come in a relaxing environment (home) they start peeing.
    They will get over it in time(normaly not more then a couple of weeks).


    this is actually something you should never do. If you do this the dog wil think that he cannot pee/poo with you near him, and he wilnot do enything outside aslong as you are near him, he will more likely pee or poo somewere were you do not see him(mostly in corners of your house:D)

    what surfguy says is also very good, praise the dog if he pees or poops outside.

    the thing you should do is just keep on going outside whenever the dogs gets awake. or after a meal, this is about 1 per 2 hours. after a while you can increase the time between the walks outside.
    Normaly a dog does not want to polute his house. so it will not wnat to do anything in your house, but when they are young it can happen.

    Since december last year i have a dog. A White Sheppard. so i did alot of research about dogs(my mother is an expert in this so i talked alot with her).

    do you have pictures of your dog?(not sure if we can post pictures)

    i'l try to post a picture of my dog:D


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  10. Manny Ramirez

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    Don't do that, random idiot, as that is a common misconception.

    Surfguy had some good ideas so I would listen to him.

    From my experience with Jake, you have to take him out a LOT until you know he can hold it or you can trust him not to go inside. Every time he uses the bathroom, praise him and give him a treat. That is the key as the dog will associate a treat with good behavior.

    And although 9 months is a little old to try to get a dog house trained (you should have been doing this when the dog was like 3 months old but I don't know the situation so I will hush), one thing you can do at night is get a small crate almost like a pet taxi and use a room like a laundry room or bathroom. Lay down newspaper everywhere at first. Then after a week, take up a couple of spots of newspaper. Eventually, you will have just one area of the floor covered by newspaper. I did this with Jake when he was 3 to 6 months old because I didn't want to have to get up every 2 or 3 hours to take him outside.

    But your dog is probably past that stage but what makes this tough for you is it sounds like your dog is at the 3 month stage of house training instead of the 9 month stage. Some breeds are hard to housetrain like Yorkshire Terriers.

    Just don't hit the dog for going in the apartment - hit yourself because your dog will give you signs (see Surfguy's post).

    Good luck.
     
  11. RocketFan007

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    This is guaranteed to work, it trained my three German shepards immeaditly. Hang a bell on the door with a string long enough for the dog to reach it. Take a medicine bottle and put a few coins in it, enough so that when you shake the bottle, it makes a good amount of noise. The key is catching the dog in the act. Whenever you see it squat, throw the bottle in the dog's direction, DON'T HIT THE DOG. This should be enough to scare them. Then take them to the bell, shake it, and tell them to potty outside, then take them out. The next time my dogs needed to go to the bathroom, the took the string in their mouth, shook it, and rang the bell. Of course, give it lots of praise and possibly a treat when it goes outside.
     
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    rub the dogs nose in the crap...then make an angry toned voice. smack it lightly with a newspaper or something (NEVER...and i mean NEVER with your hand, it'll take it personally - the newspaper will be an object hitting it rather than it's friend - you)...let it know you're upset with it and lock it in it's cage or something for an hour (or outside if this is possible, but it's already crapped, so it's not really necessary).

    i'm not a trainer or anything - but it's worked for when i helped train my mom's dog.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    If your puppy is taking too long to poop outside simply sneak up behind him and scream as loud as you can - this will scare the **** out of him.
     
  14. RocketFan007

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    Or you can light a match, let it cool, then insert it into the dog's ass. It'll crap in no time.
     
  15. mateo

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    Two words

    CRATE TRAIN

    Its that easy.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    You've been a little snippy lately. You should go get laid, Manny. You're too uptight.

    By the way, I was asking if he had done it, not recommending it.
     
  17. Manny Ramirez

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    Uh, the threadstarter's title under his handle is "random idiot" and thus my post was directed to him even though I had quoted your post. Besides, you aren't a "random idiot", you are "annoying troll".

    But thanks for the tip. I'll think about that while I am back at work tonight finishing up a job all the while you are at home masturbating over the models in your victoria's secret catalog.

    Asshat....
     
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    Ah, I hadn't noticed Robbie's title. I thought that was an insult directed my way.

    Enjoy your evening!
     
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    thanks for the advice guys. i think the thing i'm going to try to start doing when he is outside is word association along with the treats and praise i have already been giving him. maybe that will help so he isn't walking around forever getting and getting distracted and not pooping outside.

    just so yall know i have tried crate training but it's no fun hearing the dog always whining to get out.

    also, i have never caught him in the act of pooping in my apartment and it is a very small apartment. if i let him out of my site for a second he just goes behind the couch and goes. it happens so quickly i just don't even realize it. i start thinking where's chico and then i smell something. he always poops in the same areas and i put the potty pads there but he never hits them. he is either just off or barely on them. he always knows he has done something bad when he goes inside and he knows he is doing something good when he goes outside, but it is just the consistency of his behavior that isn't there yet.

    manny i wish i could have been housing training him earlier, but like i said we just got the dog a couple weeks ago.
     
  20. arno_ed

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    it is also good if you always go to the same place with him, atleast at first, so walk to some grass let the dog pee and then walk further. so it associates that part of grass with peeing.

    good luck
     

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