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#1 Nauseating Excuse for Not Passing the Ball to Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by beyao, Jan 6, 2005.

  1. stevenzh

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    Shaq is the most dominate player ever in the NBA history, I don't think anybody could ever reach his level, be real, man.
     
  2. real_egal

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    I am with you there. Being a chinese myself, actually I am glad that if people see me as a humble person. Maybe nothing to do with Chinese, more with own personality. But that's the edcation i received back then, at home, at school. Maybe it's different in "modern days" for young fellas. But I still think humility is a great character. And it indeed is Chinese culture. Never equlize gentle and humble to frightening. Let's go back to basketball now:)
     
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    NO, you are absolute wrong, you lost all credit due to this fault post about the rockets and Yao.
     
  4. Daddy

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    if that were the case, i could see your point. we do like yao. we do support yao. the fans are the loudest when yao plays like he is capable of. when yao was taking it to shaq that night in la, i havent been so excited since the rockets won the championship. even 13 points in 35 seconds didnt measure up. he knows fans are hoping beyond hope that he realizes what he is capable of. he knows his country is hoping beyond hope that he realizes what he is capable of. he is the only guy left on this team that isnt still here because he is untradeable. he will get a franchise player contract by his employer. he is one of the most popular players in america. some of the greatest players in the nba compliment him by saying what they think he is capable of.

    but they expect for him to do his part. weve given him all the verbal support we can. there is no way other to convince him other than saying he could be a legend. professional nba coaches are trying to show him how he can accomplish that. but its just like when someone tells you, you are good looking. if you believe it, you act like it. if you dont, you dont. you cant be convinced otherwise, and you cant be shown why its true. this part is up to yao. he cant be told what to do because he obviously doesnt truely believe it. he has no confidence that it is true. he has to prove it to himself and believe it himself. and that takes working on yourself and overcoming what holds you back. the help to become that is what is discribed above. but he has to hold himself accountable for what he does by himself. we can only show him the door. he has to walk through it.
     
  5. hotballa

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    heh no sweat bro. I'm with you on this last point of yours about Yao. If JVG was purposely playing Yao less and less and getting him pissed off at him, it would be the same tactics that Bill Parcells used on his players. You want yoru players to play angry, and some players can only get angry at the coach, maybe Yao is one of them. If JVG can succeed in geting Yao to go off about something, I think it would be a HUGE step in getting him to be the selfish offensive black hole that many predict he needs to be deemed a success in the NBA. I don't agree 100% with that logic about numbers equating success, but its the reality of the game today
     
  6. daoshi

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    How did you know "weve given him all the verbal support we can"? Are you close to JVG, or the Rockets players? What you said is purely speculation on your part, no one knows for sure if that's what Yao thinks it's happening.

    What we do know is that JVG is a f**k NEGATIVE S*B that has always said negative things publically about Yao. The only few times he did have something positive to say, he had to mix that with a couple negative jabs. We also know Francis said he should be the 1st option, Cat thought he was the 2nd option when both of them here. Oh, the beloved JJ also said that we got a lot of good players on this team who could score when asked why Yao didn't get enough shots. Did TMac said that he stopped looking for Yao on offense, would going to do whatever he wants to do after his "heart2heart" exchange with JVG? None of above supports your argument of "weve given him all the verbal support we can".

    I don't know if you have any kids, or have ever managed anyone before. I have two boys two years apart, but I had to treat them differently due to their contrast personalities. The same thing happens in the workplace where I have a lady working for me, she was always very tense, constantly put pressure on herself, I had to keep telling her that she had been doing a great job, and should take things easily. On the other hand, I had to be constantly on one of her co-worker who would never get anything done if not pushed.

    People are different, it's the coach's job to push the right button to maximize each player's strength. So far, JVG has not doing a good job with Yao, and I don't have any confidence in him doing any better in the future.
     
  7. KaiSeR SoZe

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    What i was trying to say is that

    its easy for him to be number 2..its like a giveaway

    I don't know about anyone else but I was expecting major improvements from his rookie year to now and I've seen smoe changes but minor changes and I was hoping that he could step it up a notch from the year before (like he did from his rookie season to his 2nd season)
     
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    The best thing that I like Lebron's game is his willingness to share the ball. He knows that he is not able to beat the opponents all by himself. It took Jordan 6 years to truly understand that, and some of the current superstars probably will never understand that.

    Lebron is not at the same level of guys like Kobe and TMac as of yet. However, he already understands the game better than lof of those elite players. The only other true super stars that have that kind of mindset are TD and KG.
     
  9. Daddy

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    he would have to be blind and deaf to not know. how could he not know it by what i have listed?? yaos no fool. if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, i think yao can figure out what it is.

    that all is a very possible argument. but yao also was upset over the trading of his teammates. but we cant keep yaos friends around just to keep him happy. this is a cutthroat business, and he has to get over that and push on, or wallow in it and allow it to hold him back. i think the same is true here. he can let everything effect him in a game that isnt easy for people who allow things to effect them. he has to rise above it. i have had coaches who are tough on me, and it IS tough. but if it doesnt motivate you to be better, or even stand up for yourself, then you only make things harder for yourself, because no matter what, there will always be criticism when you are in the spotlight. those who have the mental toughness go on to great things. those who dont come up short.
     
  10. almostReady

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    Guys want to up their stats whenever having chances, that's nothing wrong in this business. Hence IMHO Yao's only friends are coach, GM and owner, and maybe TMac, who at least sometimes think about next 3 or 4 seasons.

    But coach, GM and owner want to win now, as well. For them to have confidence in long term investment(and possibly sacrifice some wins in current season), it comes back to Yao's potential, in the eyes of the decision makers. It comes back to the starting point, what's Yao's potential? Is it worthwhile to drive whoever not willing to bow to him out of town? If the decision makers show that inclination publicly, Yao should get enough touches in the post. Yao has the potential and I think one or two season later, as he gets tougher and more strength in the upper body, things will change dramatically. my 2 cents.
     
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    Yao needs to tell CD either give me the ball or trade me. That probably will work better than demanding the ball on the court since everyone ignores you.
     
  12. Wala

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    What?? U want him to be like Shaq and come out and say T-mac is shooting to much and no one give me the ball. Start the Houston Drama where then he be trade to the Heats and T-mac like Kobe have his own team.
     
  13. Daddy

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    who said he has to say anyone is shooting too much?? this situation is not the same as in la. they arent kobe and shaq. why do you presume that from what you have seen of tmac, that he would mind taking less shots if it meant that yao was assurting himself more. he made a concious choice to come here because he wanted to have someone take some of the load. if he meant 12 shots a game, he could have stayed in orlando and juwon could have taken those shots.

    shaq isnt the only guy that demands the ball. every great player demands the ball when he doesnt think he gets it enough. it the team cares about winning, then they do it. if they care about themselves, then they can demand a trade and good riddence.

    magic and kareem did it. hakeem and drex did it. shaq and kobe did it. shaq and penny did it. shaq and wade are doing it. its not an uncharted waters for 2 stars to get their shots.
     
  14. hotballa

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    I don't think he needs to say that. I believe everyone already feels that TMac is taking way too many shots. His 40% shooting clip just ain't cutting it
     

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