I am not sure Wesley is such a good defensive player. Gundy of course stood by his decision after last night win to go all the way to prasie him. At DW is not known as a stopper on the defensive end. You never know, he might be a late boomer under the "system". The other day the clipper's commentator said "If I look at someone's career stat over 40% shooting percentage and over 35% 3 point shooting, he is a shooter, and Jackson is definitely a shooter". Now, JJ might have shot selection problems, tend to jack up shots and caught in "get it back to your face" from time to time. But look at career stats and performance, you really cannot draw the conclusion that DW is a much better shooter and can do what JJ cant. How about DW's injury problem. Did he already miss a lot of games this season.
First of all, great thread! I totally agree with this reply. I think it is a build up from being such a nice guy for so many years and always finishing last. JVG and CD are lucky he didn't go postal in the front office. These types of bustdowns really get to people after a while.
My guess is that what they really wanted to do was to dump Wesley's contract and they liked Boki's potential, and he is risk-free because they could let him walk after the season if he didn't pan out. If JJ played for them, it's just icing on the cake.
don;t try to talk to Max about it Money is everything . .. . They make money . . they not humans they have no right to FEEL anything Rocket River
It's not like this has anything to do with us. But you guys are acting like Jim is doing something terribly wrong. Like DD said, he can basically do whatever he wants. He's probably made enough money, why go waste your time on a 2-23 team? After playing 13 years in the league and moving 12 FREAK'N TIMES, I'm pretty sure you would also say F$%@ IT, I'm done.
You really think NO was THAT excited about his potential that they would just give Wesley away if it turned out like that? I would think NO values him as an asset a little more than that.
JJ is acting like a baby. But my concern is the fact that he signed as a free agent last year wanting to come here. The we trade him. Why would other players want to come here seeing that?
Everybody understands NBA is business. But it's sad to see JJ got traded again while being one of the fan's faviorate in Houston.
I can think of no other reason why they would let the trade go through with JJ still uncertain. And the fact that Boki played 30 minutes in his first game seems to indicate that they do have some high expectation for him. Again, Boki is risk-free. And if he does turn out good, this deal will look like a steal for them. I don't know. This trade is so weird. I could be wrong. But I don't think the Rockets were shopping JJ (unless JVG really had problem with JJ's "lack of effort"). Boki was supposed to be the malcontent. They must have been shopping Boki, not JJ. Maybe when CD called NO and offered Boki and TE for Wesley, they asked for JJ as the throw in. Conventional wisdom says that Boki should be the throw in for the JJ-Wesley swap. To think that JJ being the throw in for Boki-Wesley swap is surely weird. But could it be that Clutch's source was right after all?
Look dude you and your ilk are free to come any conclussion you damn so chose to reach. In fact stop rooting for the Rockets because of this "evil" and I bet we will be better for it. The Utah Jazz and Lakers fan base could use people like you.
Good post - Don't forget about when Rudy told Scotty Brooks that he wouldn't trade him or when he told Rashard that he would draft him. Don't get me wrong, I love Rudy, but it's not the first time the Rox have pulled this crap.
Let's face it, Wesley would be a starter for many teams in this league, while JJ cannot starter for any team other than the Rockets. Why we playing JJ 40+ minutes? Could that be we don't have any other SG since JVG refused to play Boki? Still remember that Francis & Mobley who averaged 40+ minutes last season, but everyone knew that JVG didn't like them, and eventually traded them away. We desperately need some back court help, especially at PG position. Wesley has primarily played as a PG before B. Davis took over with Hornets, and still shares plenty ball handling duty now. Signing him will enable us to move Tmac to SF, and move Sura & Barry to share the minutes at 2. Don't mistake those heavy minutes as his actual value, the Bulls had Pete Myers to fill MJ's position after his retirement, that didn't mean Myers was a starter-worth player in this league. We just needed a body at 3 before, and JJ happened to be that body.
Unless they are calling JJ's bluff or will turnaround and send him somewhere. Maybe. You are right though, its weird (the reasoning) and how to figure out what the real motives behind the deal were. I don't think JJ was a throw in, unless there were effort and attitude issues with him. Very possible. I agree that its hard to think that Boki has the player's ears and that his alleged lawyering was flat out, out of hand to the point that we had to move him in a trade or just release him. Yet, his best friend is Yao .......maybe JVG was afraid that Boki would turn Yao against him? Interesting........................
Can you knock down the open J. The Rox have an opening. Well at least the trade wasn't rescinded, whatever JJ does its his decision and I wouldn't be so judgemental on any decision he makes. He was screwed and I hope we don't hear from some free agent in the future that the reason he didn't want to come to Houston was because of what happened to Jim Jackson.
When I was in junior high & high school, I spent every night in the driveway shooting jumpers so late that the neighbors had to keep reminding me that I told them I wouldn't practice after 10 PM. When I went to college, I'd spend every afternoon down at the athletic complex playing in pick-up games against much better competition. Often, I would get picked up last or get my ass kicked against much better competition. I kept returning. At no point in this process did I harbor any illusions that I was ever going to play professionally. I was an average athlete with average game, but I kept playing. Why? Because I loved basketball. There are hundreds of players who ride the pine at Division III schools or NAIA schools, and dozens of players who drag their families off to third world countries like the Philipines and play whole careers for not much more than they could make in another career in the US. Most of these people don't delude themselves that they're going to ever play for lots of money or for money at all, but they keep at it. It sounds to me that JJ might not like basketball as much as some others. Maybe he's played for too many years, and maybe he's letting his pride get in the way. That's alright. There's nothing wrong with that. But when you sign a contract and there's not a "no-trade" clause, you should understand what can happen. If JJ retires becuase he doesn't want to go somewhere else, it's probably time for him to retire. Far to many people in the world are concerned with "respect" that they somehow consider their birthright.
