you bet hooroo, that would be great selection and then land Georgia techs Luke Schenscher in the second round
I heard on another board that the Rockets were looking to get Josh Childress, reported on 610, I was wondering if this is true, and why would the Hawks deal their Rookie 'prodigy?'
I wonder of this trading, leaving open a roster spot, also leaves open the possibility of using the TE this season to acquire a nice player.
I dont think so they traded Jon barry to make room for him and other rookies i dont know why they would wanna trade him.
If you ask me this is just a case of re-shaping the team into a contender. We have our two stars....now we need the players that will compliment them. All we need now is a REAL power forward and we are set.
all this would have been unneccesary if we had signed Damon Jones instead of Charlie Ward. Hindsight is 20/20 i know, but also common sense should have been just as clear. *sigh*
Sad Panic move- period Panic, because Charlie Ward's knee needs surgery and Sura's knee is swollen. Sura may go on IR and it may need surgery. CD said he was worried about Sura's knee. The problem is we were about to be really short at the PG Wouldn't wait for Barrett. This is a panic move. JJ or Wesley would have been alright if the $$ had worked. But giving up Boki is stupid. Bowen has far less potential than Boki. This will be another stupid move in the long run. Boki should have been getting minutes. He will be a far better player than Ryan Bowen. Oh well. As for the back court- If Sura is out and if they don't want to give Barrett minutes then we were in a real bind. If Sura goes out then we have only Jon Barry left. CD said emphatically they didn't want Tracy playing the point full time. That makes sense. Plus they didn't want JJ playing guard (not quick enough- poor defender) So panic time, got to get a guard that can shoot-- The best deal apparantly was this one, though we way overpaid by putting Boki in the deal. Why Oh Why didn't we sign Damon Jones? Can someone explain that to me?
people blame people's production going down under jvg system, but an open shot is an open shot no matter what team you are on, actualy any shot u take no matter if ur on the magic the heat or the damn hornets it dont matter a shot is still a shot, people blame jvg and yes he is to blame, but how is it his fault when players dont make their shots after running the play perfectly, or if players cant get down and rebound, im sick of people saying its all jvg's fault because it isnt, and about age, we aren't expecting any of our old players to play more than their caliber, we are getting them to be role players, leaders on and off the court, mutombo for example, hes old but we dont expect him to play like he was playing 5 6 7 years ago, we arent expecting much out of our old players except to do wat they do best, thats why we let jj go, there was too much load on him, and he did not live up to it this year, scoring 6 one game 11 another, just very inconsistant, all the compliments he got last year got to his head...
I guess Wesley is just one of those underrated players around the league. However, you have to respect his shooting. The guy can just run around screens and knock down shots like Reggie or Rip. He is great for this team because of his catch and shoot ability. Face it, JJ considered himself a scorer, not a shooter. He said so himself. He was a bad passer who either would not or could not pass it to Yao effectively on many nights. He would try to catch passes with one hand and it would slip out of bounds. He would dribble the ball uncontested for a few seconds and end up kicking it away somehow. He is not good at moving off the ball, and his most effective play he ran with Yao was a screen for a 20 foot jumper. I can't remember him ever getting a backdoor layup. JJ did not fit well with this team. And his defense this year has been really hampered by the way the refs have started calling games. He is decent on defense when the refs let him play physically, but they have not let that happen. This trade also makes us quicker. JJ has been consistent this year. Consistently bad. If his leadership is so valuble to us, why do we suck? Why is our effort level up and down like a roller coaster? Who cares who the leader of a crappy team is? Hopefully the move will help either Yao or Tmac step up to the challenge, to quote Kobe. I think Wesley will soon become a fan favorite in Houston. The guy went through a life-changing tragedy after being involved in the death of Bobby Phills. He seems like he is all class, and when he's draining 3's for us, no one will be talking badly about him. He's basically a much cheaper, better shooting Derek Fisher. Now our main problem is that Sura cannot shoot to save his life. During crunch time of games, Barry and Wesley should be on the floor. Overall, I think people are overreacting to this trade because people are not sure what Wesley is capable of, and we all know what JJ brings to the table. However, I don't think this badmouthing of the trade will last too long.
Doc, please give us some insight, if you have it, why this deal was done. And if there is anything else on the burner. Thanks.
Aparantly, He also wanted a fall guy. I love JJ, I like Boki. I also like Wesley, but think we may have given up a little too much. While JVG is piling up old players, youth and athleticism is winning games across the league. I know those guys are bummed they are going to the Hornets. So sad to see them go.
since wesley isn't better than jj, only 3 reasons come to mind to make this trade: 1. whatever it is that gets jj moved around so much happened again. whether it's the turnovers and shooting too much for a 3rd option or something behind the scenes, it happened again. 2. wesley just plain fits better (which he might). b/c all our old pg's are injured, we need someone to bring it up. of course, why in the hell did we put healthy andre barrett on the IR for injured charlie ward? does jvg love his old knicks that damn much? of course, we wouldn't make the move just for the 5 games barrett is gone. wesley shoots like jj but at another position and tmac can cover jj's old position. 3. salary. this doesn't help cap space b/c jj and boki are gone before or at the same time as wesley, but it does give us a slightly bigger expiring contract next year. we have quite a few expiring contracts next year. maybe we can put some together and get a quality player out of it the way minny got sprewell for terrell brandon. otherwise, i'm not really sure what the trade does for us. i don't see it as making us any worse but i don't really see it as helping us much either. even though i don't think anyone saw him being this great at shooting 3's (though he was good), damn how nice would damon jones be instead of ward as someone just mentioned. i was all for getting him this offseason because of his shooting specifically. now maybe he just plain didn't wanna come here but we could've offered him more than miami eventually paid him and we'd have a great 3 point threat at pg instead of sura (though sura has done an admirable job overall). oh what could have been.
is it me or does CD always sound bummed when he makes a trade. he did not sound happy at all today when he was on 610 or 790. Maybe the JVG actually making these moves is true. 610 was also saying that JJ may have been a bad influence on yao and tmac since they are not vocal and he is. Matt jax was saying jj was trying to get the locker room closed to the media. He also supposedly told everyone that the media is not a good thing. They are not to be trusted etc.
Wesley can shoot. This is what has gotten him through the years. He will capitalize on the numerous open looks he will receive with TMac and Yao on the court. three duties of a point guard for the Rockets 1. shoot the 3 pointer well 2. defend the opposing point guard 3. bring the ball up the court If Wesley doesn't go Pike on the Rockets, it will be a decent trade especially if Barry is able to log some good minutes at SG. Bowen plays backup SF too. I like Bowen's defense. I still remember his bob and weave when he defended Kobe. Barrett is activated again to be the 3rd point guard.
I don't know why so many people are bashing this trade. David Wesley is a very capable PG and I admire his shooting skillz, ball handling and tough D. On a side note If what DOC ROCKET was saying is correct that JJ is real mad..... then perhaps he can pull a Stacy Augmon when he was traded to Houston for Pippen deal and make his intentions clear that he really doesn't want to play for the Hornets and maybe they will waive him or something so we can sign him back. Along the lines of Alonzo Mourning and the Raptors. *Wishful thinking*
On NBA Fastbreak, Mark Jackson said that it was a terrible trade and told Jimmy to pull a power move and not go down to New Orleans. He said that he's too good a player and person to be treated the way the Rockets just treated him.
Wow, this one really surprised me. I don't really see this trade hurting us, or making us any better really. His position is needed, but he shoots about the same as JJ etc. There must be something that JJ has been doing behind closed doors to get traded. I mean the guy hasn't been all that bad this season, and after what he did for us last season one would have thought this was his new home. Guess the Journey man is packing his bags again. he must really do something behind the scenes in order to be traded so many times. I am a fan of Boki, and kind of sad to see him go. But afterall, it's not like we really got to see him play the past 2 years. Iam happy for him to be in a new system and get a chance to shine. He was never invisioned in JVG's system (what ever that is). I hope him the best in NO, and hope to see him excel as his position. So long JJ and Boki, and thanks for the memories. I'll never forget the torn jersey Boki. Peace.
