1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jordan had punched a teammate?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by noize, Dec 22, 2004.

  1. noize

    noize Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2004
    Messages:
    2,304
    Likes Received:
    204
    Excuse my ignorant, but I didn't know he had punched Steve Kerr and Will Purdue during pratice when he was with the Bulls.

    Excerpt:
    "Michael punched out two nice-guy teammates during practice -- Steve Kerr and Will Perdue. Michael ran off a coach, Doug Collins, in part because of their soap-opera feud. Michael was often at war with an opposing player or the Chicago media."

    I knew Jordan wasn't the most innocent basketball player around, but it came to a shock to me to know he punched two of his teammates. I wonder whats his motives were...I mean Kerr and Purdue? C'mon.....

    I'm a big fan of Jordan and the Bulls and since after he got his last ring, all of these negativity of his keeps on creeping out. I admire Jordan not just for his basketball skills but also b/c I thought he was one of more humble and respectfull guy on and off the court. I admit, I'm little disappointed in him right now and I felt a sense of betrayer as a fan.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/041217
     
  2. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    17,472
    Likes Received:
    5,272
    Really, you think Jordan is humble?
     
  3. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,857
    Likes Received:
    3,203
    I'll 'bet' you don't want to 'look' into MJ's baseball odyssey...
     
  4. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,866
    Likes Received:
    41,394
    Yeah he's allegedly a giant ******* due to his ultracompetitiveness, which is also what made him great.

    He apparently decided to torment/ruin Rodney McCray back in 1991. The bulls signed Rodney to a contract (who was coming off a nasty abdominal injury and at the end of his career ) to be a role player. For whatever reason, Michael and Scottie decided that they didn't like Rodney which makes no sense as Rodney was IIRC, a class act andalways a quiet, inoffensive nice guy type. Michael and Scottie took it upon themselves to punish him in practice every single day, physically, mentally, and spiritually, and to dunk on him, trash talk him, and abuse him until his spirit was broken and he was a mess on the court and fell out of the rotation.
     
  5. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    17,472
    Likes Received:
    5,272
    Didn't they used to do something similar to Bill Cartwright?
     
  6. emjohn

    emjohn Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2002
    Messages:
    12,132
    Likes Received:
    567
    There's a saying: 'Don't sit too close at a ballet, it'll ruin the magic'

    With icons and celebrities, especially movie and sports stars, the outward image is very rarely what you get. Nearly all of these stars are surrounded by media-savy professionals whose job it is to make them look like all-american darlings.

    The biggest stars rise not just because of their talents but also because of their public acceptance. If the industry knows the public both loves you and is in awe of you, you're gold. Jordan understood that and played the game (both of them) perfectly. Kobe thinks he knows the game, but can't always get past his pettiness and selfishness. That's the key difference.

    Another nugget that wasn't always common knowledge - Larry Bird was not friends with McHale and Parish or most of his teammates. He was a fairly difficult teammate himself.

    Playing the game, you can certainly play with people you don't like, but if there is a mutual respect for each other and the team goals, you can look past it and later be proud of being on that team. If you're playing with someone that puts themselves over the team, it's a different story.

    Evan
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,790
    Likes Received:
    3,708
    Yeah, I'm sure teamates never fight. Jordan, you're such a meanie.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  8. Miguel

    Miguel Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2003
    Messages:
    5,625
    Likes Received:
    140
    I thought the Kerr/Cartwright/Purdue things were common knowledge. It just made him that much greater. Kerr became a better player afterward...Will Purdue will always be remembered for the Mask he wore for what seemed like 8 years, and well, Bill Cartwright won a title cause of Jordan. :D
     
  9. KellyDwyer

    KellyDwyer Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2001
    Messages:
    3,660
    Likes Received:
    86
    Except Cartwright told him to shove it and MJ shut up after that.

    He got in Perdue's (not Purdue) and basically treated him like the shyte player he was, but he only punched Kerr because Kerr was playing slap-happy defense on Jordan during practice.

    Oh, and Bayless is a moron...
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,842
    Likes Received:
    12,625
    Can you imagine Jordan and Dream on the same team? Jordan would have shown up to game with black eye for not giving Dream his change.:D
     
  11. LiLStevie3

    LiLStevie3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2000
    Messages:
    1,160
    Likes Received:
    3
    Exactly. He played the game w/ such passion and desire, and he expected the same out of teammates. Tempers are bound to flare when that happens.

    Kobe more athletic than Jordan? Are you kidding me....
     
  12. ds888

    ds888 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2002
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    3
    he apologized to them after he did it because he was so competitve

    know the whole story first
     
  13. Davidoff

    Davidoff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,643
    Likes Received:
    9
    Oh I see so that makes it OK??

    This just in, JORDAN is a *******... News at 11
     
  14. SlizardOO

    SlizardOO Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    383
    Likes Received:
    1
    remember when artest broke jordan's ribs for calling him poor? :eek:
     
  15. MrRolo

    MrRolo Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,248
    Likes Received:
    0
    trade jordan!
     
  16. AstroRocket

    AstroRocket Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 1999
    Messages:
    11,814
    Likes Received:
    458
    Yeah, he f*cked with the wrong dude that day.

    Wasn't exactly Steve Kerr, was it, Mike?
     
  17. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2002
    Messages:
    6,362
    Likes Received:
    520
    Hahahahahahahaha.

    Seriousy, thanks for the laugh.
     
  18. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2002
    Messages:
    6,362
    Likes Received:
    520
    Uh, Bird didn't punch teammates. Bird didn't run guys like Rodney McCray and Kwame Brown into the ground, just for ****s. Bird didn't keep a team bus waiting so he could finish a half-court shooting contest with a teammate who had already won and wanted to stop. Bird didn't sit on a $33 million per year salary at the end of his career and refuse to give any of it up so he could stay together with his egregiously underpaid superstar teammate(s). The reason the Bulls didn't stay together longer was precisely because Jordan put himself over the team.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,790
    Likes Received:
    3,708
    I wouldn't go around assuming Bird never had a fight with his teamates. As far as Jordan's salary, he was GROSSLY underpaid the years before his first retirement and never complained. And why would he give up salary for better teamates when he is winning championships.
     
  20. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2002
    Messages:
    6,362
    Likes Received:
    520
    He didn't need better teammates. Had he taken a paycut down to something like, I don't know, $25 million (I know, he was barely getting by as it was, but what can you do), then Pippen wouldn't have had to keep on trucking with his $6 million or so and might not've demanded the Bulls get him out of there.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now