A suggestion for Yao:

Hey, you are one of the posters whose posts I like a lot in general and of course I am very thankful for the play-by-play, plus I have heard that you are one of the nicest guys from people who met you, I did not mean to make an assumption about you as a person.

All that being said, I have seen you put down Yao Ming a lot in many posts, same from SamFisher. I mean, this thread was just a suggestion by clove, and obviously, he put some thought into it, but you bashed his thoughts as very silly, etc. - at least you tried to address it, in contrast to SamFisher. In the course, you bashed Yao Ming again quite a bit. I am not making an assumption there, I just read a lot of posts where you do that. And I have also seen a lot of posts where you and Sam seem to attack Yao fans (probably often right on the merits, but I just saw a lot of it).

The part with the false racism claims, I fully agree with you there, I hate it when somehow race is brought into a discussion where it does not belong.

But if I understood the original poster correctly, the gist of what he says is that Yao Ming should develop a mean streak and rather risk a T than let himself get pushed around...I guess most of us would agree with that.

 

SJC,

Please provide examples of where I have "put down Yao" and "bashed" him.....

thanks

(and ill trust that you aren't going to confuse legitimate criticism with bashing and putting him down)

PS - in your research, id appreciate you finding my post from a few weeks ago where I was very positive about Yao's chances of developing into a dominant force, despite his shortcomings, by acquiring "veteran saavy" and overall, just being patient with a longer than normal learning curve

 

If I had search, I would look for the other posts, but without search...no way .

 

SJC, codell was telling the truth. Hopefully Yao could prove him
wrong in a few years.

 

I take it that we are agreed this will never happen by now, right? Good.

 

Only if you are talking to yourself.

 

So saying that Yao doesn't hold onto the ball and that Yao doesn't box out his man properly is bashing him or putting him down?

Or is legit criticism?

Saying that Hakeem was a much better player than Yao is, is putting him down and bashing him(and before you jump on the "10 times", you will notice a few posts later I admitted that I was exgagerrating to make a point)?

 

Hell only be proving me wrong if I had though that he could never overcome or correct the flaws in his game. On the contrary, I am rooting for him to, thus, hopefully, Yao will prove me right.

 

Then I take back what I said.

Go Rockets!

 

Yao needs to learn how to toss his elbows on "accident" like Karl Malone or Dikembe Mutombo do.

And, he needs to watch Dirk Nowitski flop when he shoots and learn from that.

Yao needs to learn to play the REFS as much as play the game.

That is the required show in the NBA to get your calls.

DD

 

LOL, dude lighten up, its just a metaphore, I was just trying to prove a point. If you see it that way in the first place then cleary you're the one with insecureties.

 

Oh, I was asking the other dude to be considerate and give you a break. It's not like I have said anything negative about you. But if you want to see it that way, I would think you are the one who feel insecure.

 

Great post Jackie Chan Chiles.

Codell, Samfishead and DrofDunk are either Anti-YAO MING or just extremely biased towards him for what ever reason. If you been in around here in the forum & chat, you'd know what I'm talking about. Gotta admit though, they do a great job of pretending to be a Yao-supporter. Throw in some positive comments here and there, just to keep people off guard. You cant fool real YAO FAns though, no matter what games you play, or tricks up your sleeve.

 

DD agree with all of the things you said about Yao's needed learnings.

Add to that whining ala Pau Gasol to the refs. Gasol and Nowitzki's fta per fga is way high! And this is even more surprising for Nowitzki since he shoots so many outside shots and (working on memory here) has a below average inside shot attempt percentage.

Let's face it: the NBA is dirty - yes. It is WWF with a ball - yes. It is theatrics and opera - yes. And once in a while it is basketball.

Yao needs to learn all of these things and then learn when to use them. I do not want him up there leading the league in T's - but doing the opposite and leading the league in NO T's IN THIS LEAGUE - is patently ridiculous.

You beat up the bully on the playground once and then he and everyone else leaves you alone.

Is Steve Francis ruined because he shoved his forearm in Amare's neck? No. But he sent notice he was protecting his teammate. Who is watching Yao's back now?

NOT JVG.

I would think if David Stern got enough emails via nba.com from fans from a certain country complaining about the officiating toward their favorite countryman that a few phone calls would be made and behavior would change on the part of several refs.

Squeaky wheel theory. Yao. Teammates. JVG. Valuable fan base that buys jerseys, etc.

Things begin to be different.

Unfortunately life is tough and you have to work and fight hard for what you want.

 

The Rocket's problem ( one of them ) is that short of Mutumbo they do not have anyone that will square up to someone when needed. If our starting 4 was that type of person it would probably have the same effect.

What I don't understand is....if I was 6'10"- 250#...they would have to fine me to keep from tearing the rim down. I assume that with the Rocket's it is not so much a lack of talent as it is a lack of attitude and fortitude.

 

Good job Matlock. We are ruined!!

 

LMFAO, you can never fool a real YAO FAn, he's right.

C'mon codell, we're not wanted here...

 

Hey Clove I think you are on the right track, not about the methods but about the theory.

I wonder if Yao needs to demonstrate to the refs (protest) that he wont take all the bad calls but do it in a classier method.

He doesnt need to get T's to get his point across he could do it ala TDuncan.

Something Duncan does to make a point is hold his opponent while talking to the ref. He gets a foul called but gets his point across.. This was after Tim was getting fouled and not getting any calls.

Yao/JVG or someone needs to talk to the refs not just complain but give them a heads up on whats going on.

example from Yao "Hey Joe (so and so) continues to grab my arm when I go up for rebounds can you talk to him about that or keep on eye on it next play?"

something simple like that letting the refs know whats going on without being rude. Refs are people too and as humans we make human mistakes (emotions) we dont want to piss them off.

Clove I think Yao should make a stand without actually getting physical but maybe jawing with someone that keeps fouling him or fouling back (hard) . Not to take it too far but to let people know he will stand up for himself.

for the people who call Yao dickless or balless are just ridiculous little kids.. Yao plays hard and aggressive until he picks up fouls so I think those comments are unwarranted.

J

 

Yao needs to express himself verbally to the refs. Yao only makes facial expressions. That doesn't work. Yao needs to vocalize it.