[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Russia has nukes. China has nukes. North Korea has nukes.
I have spent my whole life under the shadow of the threat of a nuclear holocaust.

Israel already has nukes. Same with India and Pakistan. Saudis are covered by a nuclear umbrella from the Pakistanis. Turkey is covered by our nuclear umbrella.

UK and France have nukes too.

Nukes are not this “I win” button.

Iran becoming a nuclear power does not mean they get to have any more control of the Middle East than it currently does.

I think we should use diplomacy to enforce the non proliferation treaty, not war.

 

I will insult you from a distance since rational discussion is impossible with Trump's dick lodged down your gullet.

 

NO. Here are the facts (reference the MOU).

The $300+ billion is not from Iranian frozen assets, and thus is not Iran's money.

What does "not being able to build a nuke" mean to you, again? You repeatedly said the only way to accomplish that was regime change. No, the MOU doesn't involve regime change (an oxymoronic statement, given the two are mutually exclusive). Instead, there aim to be something like the JCPOA (most likely a lite version of it).

 

we are in the sequel for “Idiocracy”

as stupid and as low IQ as all the MAGAs are, their leader is somehow even dumber than they are

 

Many people don't know this.

 

Trump’s Second Gamble on Iran​

The memorandum offers a bundle of American inducements so lopsided that it reads as if Tehran wrote the plan unilaterally.

Of its 14 provisions, 13 either amount to diplomatic boilerplate or heavily favor Iran on their face.
Tehran will receive military and economic concessions—and de facto acknowledgment of its control
over the Strait of Hormuz—in exchange for a concession that it will not develop or buy nuclear weapons.
Never mind that Iran has made and ignored such promises before.

Trump 2.0's CIA director doubts Iran's intentions on deal
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CIA Director John Ratcliffe told President Trump and other senior intelligence officials raises serious doubts about Iran's
willingness to make the nuclear concessions the U.S., according to three sources familiar with those discussions.

So too are Sec of State, Marco Rubio and DUI Hegseth​

 

Americans don’t give a **** if Iran goes nuclear.

 

before this stupid war, I wasn’t living my life worried about freaking Iran or scared that they’re gonna nuke us

they weren’t even pursuing a nuclear weapon

And the United States (mainly republicans) will always lie about WMDs. How many times have they used this old, dusty playbook now?

if Iran develops a nuke, it’s because Trump and his buffoonish regime have given them every incentive to

 

What does “permanently stop Iran’s nuclear program” entail? Zero enriched uranium?

that will never happen

and this war needs to end now

so I guess I’m also someone who doesn’t give a sh*t

 

I also do not give a **** if they go a nuclear. none of this makes any sense to me, if I ran one of these countries, I would simply negotiate one of these deals, get a **** load of value out of it, and then I would develop the nuke in secret.

to be honest, I don’t like Aaron much but I don’t think there is anything that can stop any relatively established country from doing so. If they want to do it, they will figure out a way.

They probably are not going to often into blowing up the world, nor would they be able to just take out the entire entirety of America. The sad likelihood as they might just figure out a third-party to help them do some sincerely evil damage in Israel.

That would simply galvanize the world against stepping in. And that’s kind of what we ultimately need anyway.

Are we going to worry about every nation that gets close to being able to do this? Terrorists With certain abilities, could just move to Aruba and do it there.

I am tired of the entirety of the American political system, and I deeply regret the fact that Trump won.

Allowing Russia to Do what they have done, the entire Iran thing, The grifting and cashing in off of being in office. It’s sad that we are numb as a society. I too am numb, so I guess I get it.
Neither Party is ethical enough and it is disappointing. I don’t know what would need to occur for that to change, but I can’t imagine any circumstances in which it does.

 

Lindsey Graham says if the Iran MOU Deal fails, Trump will take over the strait and charge tolls: If this deal fails, Trump is going to take the strait over by force. The United States will control the strait. We will charge a fee for those who go through to pay for the operation. If Iran contests control, we will obliterate them.

Who does she think she’s fooling?

Can this regime just stop it already with all this tough guy talk? The only people who buy this sh*t are the shrinking by the hour base of low IQ, knuckle dragging MAGAs.

if y’all were really this tough, this conflict would’ve been over long ago…instead, we’re the desperate ones begging for a deal to try and save face and prevent the economy from collapsing

we are blowing through our stockpile of oil reserves…once that hits a critical level, sh*t will really hit the fan

 

Yeah, when people show this much lack of intelligence in their posts, I'm out.

 

No, I've said I want regime change. Regime change would stop the tentacles of evil from their proxies the Houties/Hamas.

That's totally different from keeping them from getting a nuke.

 

I had no idea