Alright, you made me go read deeper on the case. I won't give you any crap about not believing the allegation. I do believe the allegation and it doesn't sound outlandish to me, but it is a he-said-she-said thing, so you can disbelieve it. I'd point out we have a court system that had a jury that did believe it, and it's only their opinion that is of any legal consequence. Maybe if 'believe women' doesn't jibe, 'believe juries'? The perjury charge is from a question of whether the lawsuit had outside funding and she said no when in fact there was a nonprofit that helped fund it. It was already the basis for an appeal of the verdict and the appeal had failed with the judge finding that when she was asked the question she was not demonstrably aware of the outside funding. And it was later remedied when the court learned of the outside funding and allowed Trump's lawyers to depose her again. So it seems specious and politically-motivated to bring perjury as an indictment when the allegation was already tested in court and failed. In fact, I think the standard of proof for a criminal indictment is going to be higher than what they would have had to achieve (and yet failed to achieve) in their appeal. So yeah, being a rape victim doesn't mean perjury is okay. But, neither is malicious prosecution. It's far from a slam dunk case that she did perjure herself. What's more, it's not clear it had any material impact on the jury deliberations, which is another element you'd have to prove for a perjury charge. It seems so unlikely that they could win a prosecution that it'd be unprofessional to bring it. And, we're numb to it now, but DOJ isn't supposed to talk about investigations and potentially tarnish reputations before bringing an indictment. They leaked this. I think they leaked it to make Carroll afraid and to send a message to everyone else that anyone who crosses Trump risks going to prison for it. Believe whatever about the sexual assault. If she made it all up and bamboozled a jury to get a multi-million dollar payout, the DOJ leaking stories about bringing shaky criminal charges against her because Trump couldn't win in civil court is still an abuse of their office.
It always has . . . every minority knows this . . . It's just now .. . .it has different target Rocket River
So what do you think he and epstein were doing on the island? Or do you beleive epstein was innocent as well? BUT Trump . . . . . the liar, the theif who hung out with Epstein, who talked about violating women and teen pagent dressing rooms. . . . .. is innocent? Rocket River OK Stephen . . . . .
@JuanValdez Epstein was definitely guilty. Do you think you could have sex in Macy's dressing room and no one would notice? I believe the feminist columnist didn't interact with Trump and remembered one place they bumped into each other
YES! Espn if you are Rich People turn their eyes away all the time B! That is women hollar FIRE FIRE rather than HELP or POLICE!! Rocket River
This, in itself, is pretty irrelevant. A quick search shows it’s an upscale store (not Macy’s) in a private fitting rooms. The alleged encounter was brief and sudden. More importantly, the defense already made the argument that the setting makes the story unlikely. The jury still found the overall account more credible after hearing all the evidence from both sides. Focusing on whether something like that could plausibly happen in that location does a lot of the work here, but it’s only one factor. Civil juries aren’t deciding what feels most likely in isolation. They’re deciding whether the full account, taken together with the testimony and context presented, is more likely than not. We didn’t see the full body of evidence or hear all the arguments, so our conclusions are inherently less reliable than the jury’s verdict.
You can definitely have a sexual encounter in a Macys or almost any dressing room ESPECIALLY private, upscale shopping places.
E Jean Carroll could not remember the year in which the alleged rape occurred. This was purposeful, as it eliminated any ability for the defendant (Trump) to present an alibi to clear his name. Carroll produced one piece of evidence -- the dress she was wearing. The only problem is the style of dress did not debut until years after the date range given for the incident. No police report. No witnesses. The rules of evidence simply did not apply here -- it was a political hit. Funded by Epstein's dirtiest pal -- Reid Hoffman. And the entire story tracked a Law & Order plot -- Carroll was a big Law & Order fan. Anyone can see this was a staged lie. What stuns me is how willing Democrats are to lie, and then carry forward those lies for YEARS. They are led by shameless, evil people... and the foot soldiers are emotional, low IQ followers who have no idea that they are being played for fools. GOOD DAY
It's a pretty big store like the New York Macy's.. I'm sure private dressing rooms have an attendant near by. Why is a feminist columnist inviting Trump in a dressing room? Why would a feminist not report a rape. I get women not reporting rape but a feminist columnist? Edit: I understand this was decided by a jury That being said Trump claims they didn't know each other, they have encounter each other, begin, flirting and she says he forced her into the fitting room . To me that doesn't make decisions
Is this true? I know little about this subject. I do know Hoffman is a creeper who should be in prison.
Things Trump wasn't until getting into politics and defeating The Democrat party A rapist A pedophile A criminal A racist Literal Hitler A fascist Insurrectionist Nazi Transphobic Fatphobic A liar No motor skills Deplorable Misogynist Radical Extremist Makes one wonder, how powerful the wheels of propaganda are...
Obviously you never followed Trump before 2016 when you sold your soul for him. Most of those things he absolutely was before getting into politics. He’s always been a POS. He was just an entertaining POS when he didn’t have the power to destroy the world.
Obviously you don't know Trump's biggest friends before politics were all Democrats.... Didn't seem to bother the party much he was all these a colossal ahole back then.... I wonder what changed....
