Chicago Tribune: Best cure for Rockets: Launch Van Gundy

Charvo · Nov 29, 2004

It's obvious the luster has worn off Yao's game, but Steve looked like garbage with JVG. TMac has the worst field goal percentage of his career so far. JVG is doing something wrong. I don't know what it is, but I think one of the end results is that the team is a very poor jumpshooting team. Teams like the Kings do something different that allows their players to flourish in environments that are conducive to their skills. This current team is stifling its players and forcing the players to be put in positions to fail. I'd rather have a coach who puts his players in positions to succeed.

ico4498 · Nov 29, 2004

launch ole man Grumpy, elsewhere ... please.

pasox2 · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by Panda
Yao is like playing a badminton game. He's not getting killed by running a few sprints up and down the court. Starts and stops waste more gas than sprints. Yao wastes too much energy on offense and defense. He gets worn out by all those starts and stops.Yao often plays a possession like this.

Fights for position on the left block. Gets it. Guards swing the ball to the other side of the court. Runs to the other side of the court to fight for position. Gets it. Guards can't pass because of double teams. Runs out to set screens for guards. Runs back to fight for rebounds.

On defense he often gets fouls trying to stop penetration allowed by our sucky one on one defense, or trying to go back and cover his own man, who is made open by Yao's help defense. Also, funneling offense towards Yao is stupid when the refs don't buy it. Adjust or extinct.

Yao is in a mud on both ends of court created by a little bald guy called JVG. Here's what JVG needs to do. Yao needs to shoot more jumpers. He needs two man game with T-Mac. He needs plays to be run for him to score. He's not a cow that just makes milk without eating grass. It's not a shame it's maximizing players' talent. Malone gets easy baskets all the time. Who cares if Yao is MDE or not as long as we can find ways to win. On defense sits or trades those players who can't play decent one on one defense. Help defense is just what it is, help, not savior!

We obviously need high post plays involving Yao to speed up the game a little, get more possessions and open up the lanes for penetrations. Doing so immediately cures two of our problems, being last on possessions and FTs. Running more won't hurt either. Don't worry about Yao's stamina. He doesn't need to run every time and he runs pretty fast among centers. High post offense also helps him conserve energy. What are we afraid of when we have Mutombo as back up? Mixing it up on offense with low post, high post and running is the way to go.

JVG needs to find ways for Yao and T-mac to maxmize their scoring talent or he'll be out sooner or later.
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Wow. Really great post.

mogrod · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by Panda
Yao is like playing a badminton game. He's not getting killed by running a few sprints up and down the court. Starts and stops waste more gas than sprints. Yao wastes too much energy on offense and defense. He gets worn out by all those starts and stops.Yao often plays a possession like this.

Fights for position on the left block. Gets it. Guards swing the ball to the other side of the court. Runs to the other side of the court to fight for position. Gets it. Guards can't pass because of double teams. Runs out to set screens for guards. Runs back to fight for rebounds.

On defense he often gets fouls trying to stop penetration allowed by our sucky one on one defense, or trying to go back and cover his own man, who is made open by Yao's help defense. Also, funneling offense towards Yao is stupid when the refs don't buy it. Adjust or extinct.

Yao is in a mud on both ends of court created by a little bald guy called JVG. Here's what JVG needs to do. Yao needs to shoot more jumpers. He needs two man game with T-Mac. He needs plays to be run for him to score. He's not a cow that just makes milk without eating grass. It's not a shame it's maximizing players' talent. Malone gets easy baskets all the time. Who cares if Yao is MDE or not as long as we can find ways to win. On defense sits or trades those players who can't play decent one on one defense. Help defense is just what it is, help, not savior!

We obviously need high post plays involving Yao to speed up the game a little, get more possessions and open up the lanes for penetrations. Doing so immediately cures two of our problems, being last on possessions and FTs. Running more won't hurt either. Don't worry about Yao's stamina. He doesn't need to run every time and he runs pretty fast among centers. High post offense also helps him conserve energy. What are we afraid of when we have Mutombo as back up? Mixing it up on offense with low post, high post and running is the way to go.

JVG needs to find ways for Yao and T-mac to maxmize their scoring talent or he'll be out sooner or later.
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Yes!

lalala902102001 · Nov 29, 2004

Do you lot understand that Sam Smith writes craps?

He maybe able to hit the jackpot once every decade or two, but usually his stuff stinks.

Pat · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by edc
That, my friends, is Jeff Van Gundy's fault. He doesn't want a "good" point guard.
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You don't really believe that, do you?

kting · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by Panda
Yao is like playing a badminton game. He's not getting killed by running a few sprints up and down the court. Starts and stops waste more gas than sprints. Yao wastes too much energy on offense and defense. He gets worn out by all those starts and stops.Yao often plays a possession like this.

Fights for position on the left block. Gets it. Guards swing the ball to the other side of the court. Runs to the other side of the court to fight for position. Gets it. Guards can't pass because of double teams. Runs out to set screens for guards. Runs back to fight for rebounds.

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Good points. Well Said!

I wonder why Yao didn't speak up himself. How would you expect Yao grab more rebounds after all that (running from one side to another, set high screen, run back to box out the opponent forward..)

Houston media is way too harsh on Yao, after all. he's still the best player or second best on this team (18/7 is not too bad a number) Guess Houston can't wait to drive Yao out of town following Francis.

It also seems to me JVG never realized/admitted he's part of the problems. He too shared the blame in my opinion.

Lakers is a good option for Yao , especially Rudy is there now.

KT

rm365 · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by Charvo
JVG can kill off shooters very well. I don't know what he does. Pike looked like the bad Matt Maloney when he was here. Yao has almost no jumpshot now. TMac is slowly losing his jumpshot too. Ward has already lost his jumpshot.
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I think it has something to do with demanding intense defense and hustle. It messes up your rhythm.

Blatz · Nov 29, 2004

Originally posted by kting
Good points. Well Said!

I wonder why Yao didn't speak up himself. How would you expect Yao grab more rebounds after all that (running from one side to another, set high screen, run back to box out the opponent forward..)

Houston media is way too harsh on Yao, after all. he's still the best player or second best on this team (18/7 is not too bad a number) Guess Houston can't wait to drive Yao out of town following Francis.

It also seems to me JVG never realized/admitted he's part of the problems. He too shared the blame in my opinion.

Lakers is a good option for Yao , especially Rudy is there now.

KT
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........Oh give me a break. You were probably one of the same people who said Rudy did not like Yao and Rudy did not know how to coach a big man. Steve didn't want someone else coming in and taking his team away so he didn't pass to Yao. Then my favorite line, Steve had a bad game on purpose just prove how valuable he is to the team.

Edit to put the " " in

Wala · Nov 29, 2004

When is Bob Sura goint to start for the Rockets?

Bob Sura
T-mac
Jim Jackson
Juwan Howard
Yao

Jesus this is the team man ! Can i get some hala.
And for god shake run the fast break people.

Axeman · Nov 29, 2004

There is no doubt in my mind that JVG is in way over his head and is pretty much the most overrated coach in the league. Regardless of what you might think about the team/personnel -- if Jerry Sloan or Gregg Popovich were coaching this team, we would NOT be sub-500. JVG is getting outcoached on a nightly basis. Great coaches get the most out of the talent they have -- JVG seems intent on his talent getting the most out of his system. It's totally backwards.

Bono · Nov 30, 2004

as long as Lenny Wilkens is still coaching, JVG will never be the most overrated.

maderzhao · Nov 30, 2004

By far the best post in this forum recently, period!

Originally posted by Panda
Yao is like playing a badminton game. He's not getting killed by running a few sprints up and down the court. Starts and stops waste more gas than sprints. Yao wastes too much energy on offense and defense. He gets worn out by all those starts and stops.Yao often plays a possession like this.

Fights for position on the left block. Gets it. Guards swing the ball to the other side of the court. Runs to the other side of the court to fight for position. Gets it. Guards can't pass because of double teams. Runs out to set screens for guards. Runs back to fight for rebounds.

On defense he often gets fouls trying to stop penetration allowed by our sucky one on one defense, or trying to go back and cover his own man, who is made open by Yao's help defense. Also, funneling offense towards Yao is stupid when the refs don't buy it. Adjust or extinct.

Yao is in a mud on both ends of court created by a little bald guy called JVG. Here's what JVG needs to do. Yao needs to shoot more jumpers. He needs two man game with T-Mac. He needs plays to be run for him to score. He's not a cow that just makes milk without eating grass. It's not a shame it's maximizing players' talent. Malone gets easy baskets all the time. Who cares if Yao is MDE or not as long as we can find ways to win. On defense sits or trades those players who can't play decent one on one defense. Help defense is just what it is, help, not savior!

We obviously need high post plays involving Yao to speed up the game a little, get more possessions and open up the lanes for penetrations. Doing so immediately cures two of our problems, being last on possessions and FTs. Running more won't hurt either. Don't worry about Yao's stamina. He doesn't need to run every time and he runs pretty fast among centers. High post offense also helps him conserve energy. What are we afraid of when we have Mutombo as back up? Mixing it up on offense with low post, high post and running is the way to go.

JVG needs to find ways for Yao and T-mac to maxmize their scoring talent or he'll be out sooner or later.
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sushimaster · Nov 30, 2004

If only Rudy T didn't get cancer.
And Eddie didn't screw up.
And had we kept Steve, Cat, and Cato.
We'd be in pretty good shape right now.

Uprising · Nov 30, 2004

Originally posted by sushimaster
If only Rudy T didn't get cancer.
And Eddie didn't screw up.
And had we kept Steve, Cat, and Cato.
We'd be in pretty good shape right now.
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....if only.

PhiSlammaJamma · Nov 30, 2004

Hanson wrote that song, "if only."

gucci888 · Nov 30, 2004

Originally posted by PhiSlammaJamma
Hanson wrote that song, "if only."
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I don't want to know why you know this.

fa7999 · Nov 30, 2004

If Sloan were our coach, we would be 10-5 instead of 6-9 to say the least.

Rocket River · Nov 30, 2004

Originally posted by Bono
as long as Lenny Wilkens is still coaching, JVG will never be the most overrated.
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goodness. . it hurts me deeply .
but i must agree

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