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QUESTION: What Offense should the Rocket Run

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Nov 28, 2004.

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    What is JVG's Offensive System System?
    I hear MOTION OFFENSE alot.
    Could some explain to me how this works

    Alot of Picks and Screens

    While I know we hated ISO ball . ..
    I think YAo does better with LESS MOTION
    because
    I don't see how u can run alot of motion with
    a Slow player with Stamina problems

    So my question I guess . .

    We need to somehow Post Yao up
    Low Block or high block . . .
    something requiring less movement and fighting for him
    While perhaps more motion with the guards. . .

    PnR seems good
    Or the Dump it in for Yao.

    Honestly it seems this team needs 3 Offensive sets
    One for Yao
    One for T-mac
    and
    One for both of them

    Rocket River
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    If you ever watch the Kings play, you will notice that their center almost never runs. He is more like a quarter back. He gets the ball in the post or high post and passes the ball to cutters and jumpshooters running around screens.
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    triangle....but, can you picture JVG trying to teach the triangle offense :p
     
  4. hrockets2k

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    The reason why the kings run that kind of offense is because they have a butt load of guys who can the shoot from the outside. That would really work for us because our guys havant proved that they can score consistantly from the outside. Maaaybe if we through Padgett, Mac, Jackson, Nachbar and Sura that might work but we would be losing on the other the end defensive wise. oh well.
     
  5. ikfit

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    CAN not agree more.

    we need offense system for yao, tmac, and both. and another one for our bench player.

    JVG maybe should try our O in this way. When yao in, slow the game and do half court O, when yao out, do some fast pace O. Use different sync O to attack . do we remember the Knics game?
    They play slow and less pressure in first two quarters and play fast and hard pressure in 3rd and 4th Q. this make our rox can 't used to it and control the game.

    JVG really need think about how to use our players. Personally I really hate he always use so many old former knics and don't let boki and padgett play more time.

    JVG YOU NEED CHANGE, FROM YOURSELF.
     
  6. tim562

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    At this point, any offense is better than the one we have.
     
  7. snowmt01

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    Yes We need to slow down to get Yao involved.
    But who said we should grind it out and use all the clock?
    Yao is in place but has to post again and again before we
    finally launch the shots. So much energy is wasted to
    constantly fight for position. Last time I checked, Spurs
    runs a half-court system and has 100 possessions.
    I dont think Yao would be exhausted with 13 more possessions.
     
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    Triangle
     
  9. Rockets34Legend

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    Run and gun. I think Sura can handle running up and down the court. I'm worried Yao can't (or can he?).
     
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    We are not going to run and gun. Just stop grinding it out.
    I dont think 15 more possessions would make Yao exhausted,
    or we could decrease his minutes by 1~2.
     
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    JVG has no experience with this kind of offense. The guy has no experience with the zone defense too. This is why he is failing miserably with a team that does not match the skill sets that the Knicks he coached had.
     
  12. YallMean

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    We are getting open shots, wide open. But they werent falling, particularly last two games. Our key to the current offense problem is to sink the open shots. No matter what kind of offense you run, players have to make the shots.
    Several things we need to improve
    1. Tmac has to connect with teammates more. He is out there playing all by himself, making it too difficult.
    2. Tmac drives more, take less way out jumpers
    3. More people cutting, we are making it too difficult to score.
    4. The rest of team dont just stand around when Tmac and Yao are double teamed.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    An opportunistic variation of what they are running, get the ball up in a hurry and take the first GOOD shot.

    Get a PG who pushes the ball up and dishes it to an open player, nothing gets teams more confident than getting a few easy baskets.

    The Rockets make the game harder by slowing it down.

    DD
     
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    When I saw Ward ran towards Tmac and hand over the ball to Tmac with two hands, I was like Gee I could do that.

     
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    Actually we have already had our own strategy!

    One for Yao

    PF dribbles down the court, finds Yao who¡¯s busy for his position and stares at him eagerly in order to let Yao's mama know that her son will get the ball. If Yao gets double team, find other men do whatever you want. If Yao gets the ball, Done! just watch and have fun!

    One for T-mac

    PF dribbles down the court, finds TMac and hands him the ball. Done! Since TMac's so talented,so creative, Let him create his own shot!

    One for both

    PF dribbles down the court, finds TMac first! damn it! he's busy and far away. then finds Yao, kao! he's fronted! I know Im not supposed to shot the ball, but you know I have to......
     
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    I don't think that Yao is a slow running player. I mean running.
    He's running speed is not that slow. His reaction speed is slow, though. So, I belive that they can do somewhat transition offense.

    or Pick and Roll between Yao and T-mac.
     
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    It worked well in some previous game.
    But with Ward or Lue, it sucked because of just pick no roll
     
  18. arkoe

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    West Coast. After all, why would you want to run the ball?
     
  19. Rocket River

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    nothing irratares me more than watching someon pass up
    an open shot with 18 seconds on the clock
    knowing the next opening won't be until 5~4 seconds are left

    BTW
    while we b*tched about SF and Cat
    dribble dribble dribble

    how is
    uselesspass uselesspass uselesspass any better
    Movement for the sake of moving and not to set up
    anything is just as Anal/asinine

    Rocket River
     
  20. fa7999

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    The Rockets don't have any reliable jump shooters in the mode of Peja, Bibby, Miller, and Jackson.

    No other team in the league gets so many wide open jump shots as the Rockets does. The problem is, guys miss 2/3 of those shots, encouraging the opponents not to guard you at all.
     

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